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Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 04-09-2002 23:38

I seem to be having some kind of conflict with the mail server @ whatever.net.au and the development Apache/PHP/MySQL I'm running on my PC.

For some reason there seems to be a conflict of some sort after I've installed Apache/PHP/MySQL (PHPdev) on my PC as I can no longer send mail out from my PC. It works fine beforehand but afterwards Outlook start's telling me that my email's couldn't be sent. I can recieve mail but I can't sent it.

I don't run the mail server on whatever.net.au and the person who does it really busy so I don't want to bug him about this. Besides, the problem seems to be on my end. The whatever.net.au mail server is IMAP running on Unix. I'm running PHPdev on Win2000.

I could remove PHPdev and everything would work again but I only have a dial-up connection so I like being able to develope offline. I'm not running Apache or MySQL as a service, at least I don't think I am. Oh and just so you know, I know next to nothing about the way web servers or mail servers work, I have installed and configured apache a couple of times but only for test purposes. I know even less about *nix.

Any Ideas as to what's happening would be a great help. Many thanks in advance.

jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-10-2002 19:06

Wow, that is nutty. I assume you mean Outlook Express, because Outlook is a completely different program and protocol.

Having never installed Apache on a PC I don't know what it could possibly effect that could cause this. Maybe somehow your smtp server got changed? Did you verify all your settings?

Have you tested any other smtp mail accounts? The only problem I've had where mail could be received but not sent was due to changing connections. The reason is because outgoing mail generally uses your network address for authentication (ie. it only lets people send mail who are on the local network). I don't see what this could have to do with installing Apache however.

-jiblet

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-10-2002 21:19

Does your mail server require authentication to SEND mail as well as receive it (It should to help prevent mail relaying).

If that's the case, open Outlook, and under your accounts, check the box that says MY OUTGOING MAIL SERVER (SMTP) REQUIRES AUTHENTICATION.

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-11-2002 07:19

Alright.

The two are totally unrelated

Okay that probably doesn't help, but if you remove PHP dev does your mail work again? I know you said it does but you may want to give it a try. but webservers and mail, though they seem similar are actually two pretty different systems.

I personally can't think of a damn reason why the one would effect the other, especially since you are only talking about a mail client, and a web server.

hmm. What happpens if you use a different client besides Outlook?




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jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-11-2002 19:18

True bitdamaged, but installing packages on Windows can often change preferences. That could be where the connection is.

-jiblet

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-12-2002 06:51

Your totally right and I thought of that except PHPDEV isn't even an installed executable. It's literally a zip file that just extracts into one directory and starts and stops itself from a command line bat file.

But I just looked at my install the only thing that strikes me is that the mysqlnt deamon could possibly be affecting this. But I can run the package here on virtually the exact same setup (XP instead of 2K but that shouldn't matter) and I have no problems.

Writing this however I just thought of something.

Dracusis you say you like to use this to develop offline. This indicates to me that you are probably running a loopback network device driver to get the package to work from offline. I'm thinking what could be happening is this is whats causing the conflict. I don't know exactly what this virtual device does but it may be hosing your email client by pushing requests back to itself when apache is running.

New question. Can you get mail when phpdev is not running?



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Be Excellent
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[This message has been edited by bitdamaged (edited 04-12-2002).]

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