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Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 06-24-2003 01:54

Hi, guys. How are you? I am feeling like being a lost sheep....
Please give me your thoughts about this story.

I have been studying web stuff for a while. I have done HTML, XHTML and CSS tutorial so far. And now as some of you know, I have been studying JavaScript as well.

My goal is to be able to make E-commerse web site like Amazon.

Now I am trying to make up my mind what I am going to study after JavaScript.
In my course, I have been studying Database stuff. My school has been offering me SQL class. I have being in the class for a month or two so far. SQL server called Janet has been installed into tutor's room. Currently we are accessing database to it for practice SQL. And we are using application(?) called Query Analyzer to create script.

Well, here I am a bit concerned what I am doing. Some guys here told me to learn about SQL stuff because when I code PHP, SQL let me allow to access data. So I think it is essential to learn SQL.

But what I am wondering is that if MS SQL server is suit for my purpose or not. Even I have no idea how database stuff will work with web site. Upload HTML file, PHP file, and database file?! Is that right? Where SQL goes when files are uploaded?

Hhmm.......Please help....

Hiroki Kozai

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-24-2003 02:10

Hiroki: I don't think you have too much to worry about although you might be rushing things a little

Getting a good grasp of SQL will help with whatever databases you use in the future. There might be small differences in the way things are done between different DBs but essentially the skills are transferrable. With PHP/MySQL the trick is usually to make sure you've got the SQL right and everything else can flow from that.

You'll find everything will slot together as and when you need it.

Janet as in the Joint Academic NETwork? I thought that was a UK only thing......

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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 06-24-2003 02:16

Just to elaborate slightly, though it may not be necessary - SQL is a standardized language, while each implementation of a SQL database will have some differences in the rules that apply. So, as Emperor said, learning the language is necessary no matter what particular implementation you end up using.

Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 06-24-2003 03:35

Hi, Emperor, Hi, DL. Great to hear from you.
Many many thanks for your replies.
I really appreciate that.
Well, so it is good idea to brush up SQL skill, right?
But when I move to server-side scripting, can I use my school's facility instead of MySQL?


Hiroki Kozai

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-24-2003 04:04

Hiroki:

quote:
But when I move to server-side scripting, can I use my school's facility instead of MySQL?



I would doubt it but it would depend on what is available to you there, etc.

I'm moving this one to server-side scripting too.

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trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 06-28-2003 01:13

Hiroki ... I'm sure you are a very clever guy, but I've been following your progress over the past few months here on the Asylum, and I just have to say that I'm astonished that someone can leap, in great "superman-like" bounds, from rock to rock along the path you're following ... think on this ...

As you leap from boulder to boulder on your relentless, and headlong rush to assimilate all knowledge, look down occasionally, and you will see the small people ... examining the pebbles which lie between the rocks which support the boulders which fell from the cliffs on wich you hope, one day, to stand. And as you observe them ... ponder, on that final day of assessment, about the pebble examiners and the boulder leapers ...... and tell me who will actually know ...
and who will just hope they remembered ....

life is not a goal to be achieved, it is a path, not even to be chosen or followed ... a path

see ...
do not look for ...

Knowledge is nothing but a memory of the path you walk ...
as you walk, tread lightly, lest you disturb someone else's future ...
as you pass, look carefully, lest you miss that which is truly there for the taking ...

Many of these Asylumites found their way through the web minefield before "tutorials" or "courses" existed ... most of them (us??) who did, are still experts in what we do ... because of that, not despite it ...

it is understanding, not knowing, which makes experts.

LIFE IS GOOD .. ENJOY .. EXPERIMENT .. LEARN ... KNOW ...
TAKE YOUR TIME .. UNDERSTAND ...

then SHARE ...

Peace and love ... oh ... and by the way ... Thanks for all the fish.


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

[This message has been edited by trib (edited 06-28-2003).]

trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 06-28-2003 10:00

Jeez .. Man I musta been drunk last night !!

Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 06-30-2003 01:59

Hi, guys.
Lots of thanks to you, mates.
Glad to hear from you and learn from you.
I am off to lunch now.
Cya.



Hiroki Kozai

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-30-2003 08:02

man, trib... I think I'm gonna cry..


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trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 06-30-2003 12:13

AArrgghhhh .. I am SOOOOooooooo embarassed !!!


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-01-2003 02:06

trib:

quote:
AArrgghhhh .. I am SOOOOooooooo embarassed !!!



Dunno why - it sounds like the best piece of advice I've heard in a while

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Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 07-01-2003 03:41

Yes, why is that?

Hiroki Kozai

trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 07-01-2003 08:30

I think it was more the "waxing lyrical" than the advice which made me cringe


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

[This message has been edited by trib (edited 07-01-2003).]

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