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Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 05:56





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Moth
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 06:07



and the other background.

Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 06:31

...and more plasma goodies.



Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
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posted posted 08-09-2003 06:32

and on the other background.

Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
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posted posted 08-09-2003 07:01

The second one is very pretty (great colors), except that whatever bevel technique you used created an ugly unclean/jagged surface. You should fix that.

outcydr
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posted posted 08-09-2003 07:07

lovely

how u do dat?



velvetrose
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posted posted 08-09-2003 13:13

love the dancing plasma effect
especially on the second one!

Taobaybee
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From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 08-09-2003 15:46

Nice splurge of creativity Moth I really like the second one. Have you tried antenna, antenni ? or a simple pattern on the wings, or mayhap that will make the effect too confusing?
[edit] i think I've over done it on the coffee (edited 6 mistaks oops 7)

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mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 17:25

great effect you used here.
did you use the cloud filter for it?

Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 18:03

Thank you all for the comments. I'm partial to the second one as well. The sword has some jaggies and overall doesn't have the impact I was hoping for.

Slime, I agree with you about the bevel. I used the bevel-soft chisel layer effect in attempt to make the moth shape appear more like natural quartz. I'll try a different bevel technique as soon as I'm able.

Taobaybee, I decided against attenae because they never like right in a small gif for me. Either people can't see them or the look like rabbit ears. I also wished to keep the design somewhat stylized. The idea of patterning on the wings does appeal to me. Maybe with a separate plasma effect of a different color, like green. Hmmm... *thinking*

Everyone else, the effect is done with satin. There is a large plasma effect thread on www.photoshoptechniques.com that I got the bare bones from. I'm at work now so this will be vague and loose.

Basically you make a shape. Select layer effects satin. Change the color from black to another color and change from multiply to one of the brightner settings, such as color dodge or vivid light. Play with the parameters of the satin to get what you like. Set the angle at 0 degrees and click OK.

Now the really cool part.

Jump to image ready.
In the animation area, create a second frame.
Click on the satin effect sub layer and change the angle to 180 degrees. (this will effect only the second frame)
Go back to the animation and click on the first frame.
Tween 12 frames.
Delete the last frame of your animation. (to prevent a duplication of the first frame.)

Run the animation and see how tween handles all the rotation without you needing to do anything else.

That's it. Everthing else is layer effects and personal preferences. Now go play.



Taobaybee
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From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 08-09-2003 19:45

Thank you Moth for sharing that is soooooo cool (I'll send a Jug of Margaritas to your cell) Here is my first effort just to see the effect in action.
Here

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Rauthrin
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 2 Miles Below Insane
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 08-09-2003 20:52

Wow Moth, that looks awsome. If you put another layer above it and had it rotate the other direction it might make it look more plasma-ey (sp?)

Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-09-2003 21:15

Taobaybee. Great work! I forgot to mention that inverting the shape of the satin leads to different effects.

Rauthrin, that's whats going on in my sig.

There is a lower satin layer rotating in one direction. The bevel layer is on top of that and an other satin layer on top rotating in the other direction.

Keep playing.

Moon Shadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Rouen, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 08-09-2003 21:27

Tried it out on a moon, works very well indeed. Maybe other tricks can be done like that too, I should look into this.

Thanks for the tip Moth !

Me think you should add this mini tutorial to the FAQ.

Alevice
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From: Mexico
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posted posted 08-10-2003 01:03

It reminds me more or water waves reflected on (duh) reflecting objects, suchs as shiny metal. That lil detail does not make it less cool at all tho =P

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Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-10-2003 01:44

I feel the same way. With some colors it reminds me of those plasma balls you see in specialty shops. On other colors it reminds me of water waves reflecting on the bottom of a pool.

By the way, here's a link to the thread. http://www.photoshoptechniques.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2928&highlight=plasma

The developer of the technique is Greg Vander Houwen so give credit where credit is due and thank him if you post there.

Keep playing.



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docilebob
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posted posted 08-10-2003 02:18

Nicely done, Moth. I agree with Slime about the bevel, but you`ve used the plasma thing well.

AnoMecha
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From: Florida
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posted posted 08-10-2003 03:38

well i thought i'd give it a go.


hmmm? adjusted the matte but still get white jaggies.



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ok i fixed it.

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Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-10-2003 18:34

Oooh water! Good work on fixing the matte.

Here's an update.



Rauthrin
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From: 2 Miles Below Insane
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 08-10-2003 20:47

Moth: I couldn't see it that well, this monitor that I'm using has really bad gamma settings. With the softer bevel on the one above, it makes it look fuzzy and a bit blury.

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Moon Shadow
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posted posted 08-10-2003 21:11



Played a bit differently with it... That's nice, I'll see if I can make a sig out of it.

By the way Moth, I prefered the first version of your butterfly.

Moth
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posted posted 08-10-2003 22:34

Moon Shadow, that's fantastic. An interesting twist on the idea. Would you mind posting a version with more frames in the tween? I'm curious what your sig would look like slowed down.

Oh here's another version of the plasma moth...





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Alevice
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posted posted 08-10-2003 23:10

Now that looks as plasma =P

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docilebob
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posted posted 08-10-2003 23:54

I like the banded patterns in the last one Moth. Very moth-ish.

Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
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posted posted 08-11-2003 04:25

I'm glad you like the experiment. I chose less colors and no dithering in the optimization to cause the banding. I used the same technique with the plasma sword but it didn't work as well.



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trib
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From: Den Haag, Netherlands
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posted posted 08-14-2003 18:20

Can I try one ??

Pah .. useless ... I'll be back !! ... back .. and better I think

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Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-14-2003 23:13

I like what you've got going on in the globe but your name needs work. It's too dark and small.

trib
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posted posted 08-15-2003 12:04


Any Better ?? I think I prefer these to the other one ... I tried for the "real" plasma ball effect ... a bit staccato, but getting there ...

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Moth
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From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-15-2003 20:59

I think you are on the right track. The lightning seems a little off, like its not moving right. The plasma behind the lightning is beautiful.

silver-dragon
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From: AZ
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posted posted 08-15-2003 21:37

wow trib thoes are awesome!

docilebob
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posted posted 08-15-2003 23:16

Very nice, trib. I like "plasmatrib.gif" best. (maybe lighten the colors a bit).

Well done.

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