Topic: Ripper Report - Graphics (Page 3 of 3)

Michael,

Good to see some constructive feedback.

As for the logo, you make some valid points. I do agree that the mixture of minuscles and majuscles might create too much of a tension. I did want some contrast though, which is why I choose the seriffed font for the rr part. You are absolutely right about the "to educate and protect" part.
I think what I like the least about your idea is the mirrored r. To me that just looks odd. And to me the whole logo feels a bit high.

The page layout idea I posted is not very good, and I agree with all the things you pointed out.
Here are a few more design ideas I made. In some I have altered the logo to be much more like your idea, Michael. http://www.ripperreport.com/graphics/pageidea2.gif http://www.ripperreport.com/graphics/pageidea3.gif http://www.ripperreport.com/graphics/pageidea4.gif

It would be great to see some more ideas too. CPrompt, do you have any suggestions for designs? Or anyone else for that matter. I feel this is moving very slowly at the moment, which is probably my own fault. But I hope we will be able to agree on something soon.

I like the page4 layout. It is nice. I have some problems with the logo and the whole drop shadow business. I don't think it is needed something a little cleaner would be nice. But again let me restate that I really like the layout idea.

It might also need some filler on the right. Maybe something along the lines of:

Right sorry for being slack here. Lets try and pick up the pace so that when WS gets back from his honeymoon things will be moving along again and he can throw his thoughts in.

ZOX: I really like ideas 2 and 4. I like 2 especially apart from that net-style background which makes the edges of the logo look distinctly odd. I'd suggest just simplifying the background of the upper area. WarMage is right that the top right area could do with something and I'm wondering if we could put in something like a subtle background and work some kind of useful site related thingy - I'm thinking of a search and pos. login (username and password) style boxes.

Anyway with a toned down background number 2 would certainly get my vote - I like just about everything else about it

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... and production is back to a snail's pace...
I thought I'd tinker with some shite this evening.....
I'm hoping this will kickstart some more action on this project....

So anyway.... quick layout...
I tired to keep to the basic principles for the most part...
-simplicity
-fast loading
-useability
-attractive
-professional
-easy to read

then i just kinda threw a dash of this, with a sprinkle of that........ idea from Person A... two ideas from Person B.

I've got some more thoughts on this.... but eh... i don't feel like messin with it anymore...

So anyway.... here's some more crap to look at....
(sorry for bustin' up the width of the asylum for those of you at 800x600)



thoughts?... comments?
questions?.... critiques?
bitches.... moans..... bitches.... n' general nastiness?

Michael: Thanks for that - I've not been convinced by the steal design idea but you integrated it well into the design. I'm still not sold on that though:

1. Its IE(/Win?)-biased and so might not make sense to other browser users.

2. Repeating the GUI inside the page might be a little confusing for IE users

3. It really stands out as a separate element in the design (you've done well to draw the elements together in a clean simple design and this 'jars' slightly).

However, as I said I like what you've done with a clean, simple look and those ideas for the different sections in the content area certainly caught my interest. I'm unsure about the red background for the lefthand column but the text looks good (although a little 'loose' in contrast to the more constrained design in the rest of the page) and can be done in CSS too (which certainly gets my vote ).

Plenty of good ideas (we could probably reprocess the ideas presented in this design into a number of good sites) but it is time to start drawing together the elements we like into a coherent whole so I'd be interested to hear people's opinions on what they feel is working for them or not. I'd certainly be interested in ideas from CPrompt and WS as well. We then need to try and get some momentum back and so we'll move ahead with a design soon.

I'd like to thank in advance everyone who have thrown in their ideas - things have been distinctly stop/start and I want to break out of this initial phase as soon as we can and everyone's efforts have helped drive this forward.

So get your thoughts in before we make a decision

[edit: oh and Michael - that yellow looks better than I thought it would ]

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Great to see some action here!

Michael, I think it looks good. I will need to come back during my lunch with some more in debth comments, but I like what I see.

I must offer a very strong endorsement for what Michael has presented.

His origianl logo posting is by far the best example posted, and his latest layout example is the only one I've seen so far that really pulls together the various aspects discussed into any sort of cohesive, attractive design.

I second Emperors dislike of the 'steal design' bit though, and for all the same reasons.

I would highly recommend that what micheal has presented be taken and put into a working page, and go from there.

One other thing that is like is the way Michael has tightened up the top area as I was getting a little concerned that it was a little too high. I would suggest that we aim to have something useful in that space like a search box and/or user login boxes.

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I have a little more time to look a this now, so let's see...

As I said before, I like this. I agree with DL-44 that this is a good combinations of ideas that
has been discussed so far.

As for what I like and dislike...

I like the logo, it really doesn't need to be more than this. The only thing that bugs me with
it is the slightly off-white color. I think it would look better white, or maybe a bit more obviosly yellow.
I would also like to see a few more pixels of space above the logo - it looks a bit cramped as it is now.

I like the "steal design" part as far as it is fun, different and a bit clever, not because I think it is esthetically
very pleasing. Also, this screenshot is 900 pixels wide, and we might run into problems making it
liquid all the way down to a 800 pixel screen.

The menu looks ok.

Unlike Emperor, I like the red section to the left. It might not need to be as wide as this, but I guess
that depends on how we want to present the recent rips. If it is done with thumbnail images,
it might need this much space.

The yellow is ok... I think the yellow title looks good, but I don't care particularly for the yellow
gradient background... the whole concept of a gradient with rounded corners does not fit very
well with the rest of the design... Right now it feels almost like two different designs in one page.
Of course, some sort of footer might pull it together quite nicely.

That's my 2 cents worth, time to get back to work

Just toying.
took some of the above comments and incorperated them.



again.... bitches and complaints...

and ya.... i just slapped that "steal design" bit in there again.
fuck off, i know it looks like shite.

Ooh, even better

The 'steal design' bit doesn't look so bad in that way - much more subtle, less intrusive.

Nice work

Michael: I'm liking that a lot better - still not won over on the steal design business but I'm getting there

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Looks very good!
I especially like the upper left corner, with the bright red and big contrasts.

I think the 'steal design' part look better now - less obtrusive.

What about moving the "steal design" up in the meny, so it fits in the top of the page,
something like this:

ZOX: Now that I could live with

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well...
toying again...



turn for the better..... turn for the worse?

Michael: Thanks for plugging away there I like the phrase across the top but I think I prefer the previous version (that yellow works well and I preferred the cleaner feel). I suspect this is a good sign that we might be approaching some kind of finished look and feel.

What does everyone else think?

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I like how this is turning out. The 'Steal Design' is incorported quite well, I like it, I think it should stay.

I do not, however, like that choice of green. I don't think green is going to go well with this design. Nope, nope.

Kudos Michael, well done.

at a quick glace I think I agree with Emperor - I liked the previous version better.

Not that this is bad, but I think I preferred the cleaner look.

Has anyone else noticed how Michael has used some kind of Jedi-mind trick to get us to agree that yellow is good?

Anyone else got any thoughts on this - further tweaks?

Are we going to make the site searchable? If so we'll need a search box up there at the top too. Do we need a login box there or could we just have it on the pages where you need to log in?

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Just being nit-picky, but take that apostrophe out of it's in: "and people who care about it's content"

Cell Number: 494

just being picky leave the apostrophe's in otherwise it will look like someone didnt know they were meant to be there

also i think the search engine would be a good idea...

~cough~

There is no apostrophe in the possessive form of it.

Only in the contraction of "it is".

amazing that the most miniscule aspect of these iterations becomes the center piece of conversation.

*shakes head*

Michael: I think this is a clear sign that we are happy wth the general design and are getting nitpicky over details.

More thoughts?

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DL: Are you pulling tongues at me? Well there is no-one else where so you must be pulling tongue at me.

Anyway I can install a site search engine pretty quickly so if its deemed a good thing I can pitch in (as Dracusis has had to relinquish his #2 coding position) and get it done.

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zeah i think this is a close as we are gonna get to the final version Emps.

DL... FYI Read Post....

"It's in" is the contraction form as abbreviated from It is in...... *cough*

however as you correctly pointed out the second apostrophe should not be there

[This message has been edited by tomeaglescz (edited 09-18-2002).]

[This message has been edited by tomeaglescz (edited 09-18-2002).]

OK. I think we are all agreed (give or take an apostrophe ).

ZOX: Do you want to take Michael's design of 09-14-2002 02:54 PM and give it your tweak to get the steal design bit in the header area and start the process of turning it into graphics for a page. I'd like to try to use CSS as much as possible here so do people think we should go for the 'who we are' business as ordinary text but with some styling on them?

Synax: As you are going to be doing the HTML have you any input at this stage?

I think given the decision and the length of this thread that I'll shut this down and start a new one.

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Those of you following the real topic of the thread just go here: http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum15/HTML/000113.html and pay no mind.

I only opened this up to discuss the insignificant apostrophe issue some more (sorry, I couldn't just let it go )

Tom - the "it's in" part of Bee Kay's post was saying: take the apostrophe out of (the)"it's" in: (quote from the actual page with the errant apostrophe).

So..the first "it's" was him simply stating the word in which the apostrophe needed to be removed....he wasn't saying the phrase "it's in".

See what I mean?







[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 09-18-2002).]

DL LOL..... wanna reclose this one now hehehe 4 posts over a " ' " guess that means the graphics are pretty much sorted

~sigh~


silly bitches.

I'll tell you what I'll give closing this thread another go (esp. as I think Tom's comments were meant as a joke) and see how that goes.

I enjoy having the last word as much as the next man but...........

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