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Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-09-2002 22:53

Is it murder if I smash a bug?



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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-09-2002 23:07

that depends, are you a christian?

ShootingStar
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Kanada
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 06-09-2002 23:13

definitely bugacide.
how about smashing a beetle with driver and passengers?

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 01:06

Wolfen, if your a christian its murder and you'll burn in hell for it.

counterfeitbacon
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 01:06

Why would it matter if you were a Christian, because if you were, then it would give you even more justification to because they don't have souls...

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 01:07

lol look at those post times hehehe...

Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 02:35

Lutheran to be exact... ummm, does it help my case if it attacked me first?



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counterfeitbacon
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 03:29

If it attacked you first then smashing it would be considered self defense

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 04:01

InSiDeR: I'm going to assume you're joking. The only way I could see you would get in trouble for squashing a bug is if your were a Jainist, but I'm not sure if they have a hell. In fact, I don't know very much about Jainism except that they hold all forms of life to be sacred, and I heard once that Jainist priests have people sweep the ground in front of them as they walk, lest they accidentally step on a bug. Don't know if that's actually true, but it's the kind of thing that you don't forget. At least I don't.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 04:55

Suho I am not joking...

THAL SHALT NOT KILL

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-10-2002 05:22

I think it depends on the "bug" in question...

~he said looking a bit worried and ready to scurry into a crack at first sign of danger~

. . : slicePuzzle

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 06:00

I think if you smashed a bug it is ok, as long as you let the bug know the reason. I just think it is wrong to kill things if it is for no reason. It's not like you walk around at parks with a fly swatter and go around chasing bugs all day. This would be wrong, but to just kill a bug that attacks you, or is biting you, well that is Ok. Hopefully.

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Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 06:14

Does being buzz bombed by a bee count?



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Dokuzetsu
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Negative Space
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 06:35

kill 'em.
there are millions more.

said the human as a race of alien bugs wipes us out for colonization....

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 07:37

If you got my joke... (I don't believe in god remember), obviosly.

I was joking about burning in hell, I couldn't care any less about weather you killed a bug or not, its not murder but I don't think you should just kill a bug for no reason.



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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-10-2002 08:15

Why not? They'd kill you if they could. Same with chickens.

-Jestah
Cell 277

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 10:37

*Tries to imagine being killed by chickens, pictures Dodo scene in Ice Age, falls out of chair laughing*

My people don't believe in hell, so...and as for killing a bug, well...as long as it is not Bugimus...why not? I hate flies...

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 14:44
quote:
Suho I am not joking...

THAL SHALT NOT KILL



Hehe, that's pretty funny InSiDeR. I find it really hard to believe that you're not pulling my leg here. You do know that that refers to humans, right, and not to animals? You're pulling my leg, right?

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-10-2002 16:32

hehe...maybe pulling your chain? *grasps lever, pulls it* Bye-bye suho...*waves as suho goes shooting down the halls...*



Man, that's more fun than shouting for the Nurse!!!

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-10-2002 19:48

Any Oingo Boingo fans here? Remember this line? "And though they'll rule the world someday, they bite and sting me anyway... they bite and sting and suck... they bite and sting and suck Suck SUCK!!!"

"Thou shalt not kill" refers to *murdering* humans. The command to put murderers to death was the only command that was repeated for each of the 5 books of the Pentateuch.

. . : slicePuzzle

njuice42
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Gig Harbor, WA
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-10-2002 20:32

I make people who kill bugs feel guilty for doing it. After they kill one, I'll step in and say, "You know, it probably had a family. In fact, somewhere out there, a little bug is going 'Daddy? Are you coming home Daddy? Why did you leave us?'"

I too hate bugs ... err, insects, rather. Bees and little gnats irritate me beyond belief.

njuice42
icq 957255

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-11-2002 06:29

By dictionary definition, killing a bug is not murder.

I do believe, however, killing a bug for personal amusement or unjustified malice is...well, it's not right.

Oh, and "thal" is not a word.


eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-11-2002 06:50

I dont think any court would fine you... unless it was in some extreme form of protest...

as for sin? well... IF you had a conviction that killing bugs was a sin and you killed bugs... that could be a sin... never thunked about it before.

by-the-way... Did you eat a pear today?

Izzay

njuice42
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Gig Harbor, WA
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-11-2002 08:16

Yes I have, yes I have. It had a bug in it. So I killed it.

Pear was tastey though.

njuice42
icq 957255

[This message has been edited by njuice42 (edited 06-11-2002).]

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-11-2002 08:58

no suho, im not pulling your leg, I am pulling yours and bugimus' body into the world of SNL,

heh, bugs how do you know what THAL SHALT NOT KILL specifies and targets, are you moses? i certainly hope not, then ill have to kidnap you so you can part a few, uhh, nevermind.


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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-11-2002 20:36

Once again, "thal" is not a word.

See if you can get it right and get a cookie.


InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-11-2002 20:50

sorry, "thalt"

njuice42
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Gig Harbor, WA
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-11-2002 21:24

Oh my... lol

"Thou"

njuice42
icq 957255

[This message has been edited by njuice42 (edited 06-11-2002).]

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-11-2002 22:26

sarcasm is fun to play with dont u think

thats rhetorical by the way

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-12-2002 06:37

Sarcasm usually involves some sort of wit.


Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 06-12-2002 11:08

If a 20 stone roach appeared in your living room you'd try to kill it. It's only because they are so small and 'defenceless' that people say you shouldn't kill them. Nothing more satisfiying than hearing the crunch underfoot.


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DigitalUbiquity
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: St. Paul, MN, USA
Insane since: Jan 2002

posted posted 06-12-2002 15:56

Wes, that was great. The perfect response, a definition and an example all in one.

DigitalUbiquity

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-12-2002 16:15

Nice one, Wes. Very nice.

InSiDeR: please at least try to make sense...

SNL = Saturday Night Live?


Cell 270

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-12-2002 23:00

yes suho,

there was a skit where john goodman played moses and darrel hammond played c*****n back when moses brought the 10 commandments out, and the OLD OLD bill c*****n would ask, "now, when you say thou shalt not covet thou wife, that doesn't mean the wife can't say, do the pleasure to you. I mean what if shes the one shining up the end and its just happening?"

heh, watch more american tv

edit: lol c-l-i-n-t-o-n was cencored hehe


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njuice42
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Gig Harbor, WA
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-12-2002 23:03

Yeah Suho, watch more American TV over there in Korea... you do, after all, need to know what Insider's talking about

njuice42 Cell # 551
icq 957255

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-13-2002 03:23
quote:
bugs how do you know what THAL SHALT NOT KILL specifies and targets


InSiDeR, I would do what I do when I want to find out more about a word in English... I would look it up in the dictionary. But since you and I don't read Hebrew, I would look up what Hebrew word is used in that verse and see how and when it is used. Of course, you have to take into account that verse was written a few thousand years ago so you would need to use the appropriate reference materials. We also have the benefit of centuries of commentary and teaching on that very passage to draw upon. It's hardly a mystery as to what, or rather who, "Thou shalt not kill" refers to if you're willing to take a serious look.

I could have just said to "open a book" but that might sound mean, so I decided to tell you to "open a book" with a few more words

. . : slicePuzzle

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-13-2002 05:43

Ok on the theory that there is a god, it was probably writtin in another language and then translated into english.

Of course thats IF there is a god

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-13-2002 13:58

InSiDeR: You don't know how much it pains me not to know what you are talking about all the time. In fact, since I have absolutely nothing to do with my life I have decided to devote myself to the study of the Gospel According to InSiDeR. I truly believe that this is the way God has chosen for me.

In fact, God appeared to me in a dream last night and said, "Suho, you're not watching enough American TV. How do you expect to follow me if you don't listen to My Word?"

Thank you. I have seen the light.

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-13-2002 14:41

ROTFLMAO!!!

*gasps for breath*

quote:
In fact, God appeared to me in a dream last night and said, "Suho, you're not watching enough American TV. How do you expect to follow me if you don't listen to My Word?"

Thank you. I have seen the light.



You're killing me, suho.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 06-14-2002 12:54

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