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spain?

DL: lol my thoughts exactly!

I never said the Catholic church started in Rome. It is represented there. The Holy Spirt was breathed into the church in the upper room at Penetcost by the Holy Spirit. Can we agree on this? I will take Roman out of and just call it the Catholic Church since it is a universal church.

Only two times did God breathe life;
the first time into the creation of man
the second time he breathed the spirit into the church
(a spiritual & second creation)

I wonder what an encyclopedia says who the founder of the catholic church is.

"I never said the Catholic church started in Rome. It is represented there."

i'm assuming you mean represented there as meaning they are jesus' rep on earth?

"The Holy Spirt was breathed into the church in the upper room at Penetcost by the Holy Spirit. Can we agree on this?"

nope, that is catholic dogma and not all catholics (let alone xians) believe that

"I will take Roman out of and just call it the Catholic Church since it is a universal church."

can't do that jade, there is also a Greek Catholic Church.. unless you choose to speak for all catholic branches?

"Only two times did God breathe life;
the first time into the creation of man
the second time he breathed the spirit into the church
(a spiritual & second creation)"

more catholic teachings and on a realistic level, untrue. if he breathed life into adam.. how did eve receive life? nitpick possibly, but still..

I wonder what an encyclopedia says who the founder of the catholic church is.

this site partially agrees with your assertions. not having an encyclopoedia handy, i used google. if you scroll down and read the first two notes, you'll see that just as on this forum, there is division of opinion out there amongst theologians. in fact bugimus or fig shared some info with you on this last subject.

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VR.

I don't agree with anything you posted.

For one, the breathed life verses are in scripure. Not catholic dogma the church councils made up.

The Russian and Greek churchs are still considered catholic to the Roman church. They are in a state of schism. Like we are in disagreement but eventually will agree in time.

Were you the one who said you were catholic too???
Seems like there is a lot of misreprentation on what catholicism or what people precieve it to be.

Over thousands of protestants out there thinking what the catholic church really is, only about 100 really know in my estimation figurativly speaking.

Jade, can you tell us where in the scripture it says the Holy Spirit breathed life into the Catholic Church?

yeah tell us, so I could learn something out of the book!

If you can, can you look it up in scripture. It should be in acts if you want to check the web. I just don't want to be running to my bible all the time to prove my statements. And I know you guys are knowlegable in scripture. Sorry.

On what I know or recollect is this:
All the apostles met in the church is Esphesus along with other followers and the virgin mary. The Holy spirit descended upon the congretation and gave them the holy spirit and all the gifts that go with it, healing, speaking in tounges, phophecy, etc. The church which considers herself still christians and catholic considers this to be the birth of its church when the holy spirit was breathed into it.

I also wanted to say before I go out of town that

The catholic church (meaning universal) is made up of three entities.
Like the trinity.

The magisterium (divine ruling body)
The holy scriptures (divine reading)
The traditions she enspouses (handed down history)

All are equally divinely instituted. One is not more important
than the other. Without the other they cannot stand. They are
equal in importance to the whole church.

Its like a body. If an arm is missing, Is it complete. No.
If two arms are missing, does it still stand. Yes. but still
incomplete.
The body is like injured and not whole without its arms.

Just like the church she need all three parts to stand.

For all of you who are interested in the actual beginning of the Christian Church according to Luke's record of what happened, please read

the second chapter of the book of Acts

It's not that long and perhaps we can clear up some of the misconceptions about it.

lol. I'll try next time Bug!

ooh, yeah.

1. bugs, you rock.
2. now that's what i call a solid argument.
3. biblegateway definitely rocks. i'm learning to love that site.

yeah.

now that's what I call funny...

What's funny?

the funny is that Yannah started this thread?!

*blows kisses toYannah*

lol...
Bug, I was referring to Reitsma's post not yours. I can't do that!

Thanks outcdyr, for the kisses.

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