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Moon Shadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Rouen, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 04-21-2003 18:08

Just wanted to ask our American fellows what they thought of that (I don't think this type of show is actullay broadcasted in Europe... At least it is not broadcasted at all in France).

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-21-2003 18:23

http://www.bigwaste.com/telebingo/


Moon Shadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Rouen, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 04-21-2003 18:29
quote:
I. Prepare thyself with no less than one bingo card. Thou mayest use as many cards as thou choosest, if thou be so attentive. Mark thy Forgiven spaces with one coin of silver or copper. The Forgiven spaces art thy freebies.

II. Tune thy television set to any televangelist program. Harken unto his words and mark thy spaces that match his words. When thou completest a row of five coins, shoutest to the heavens, "Amen!"

III. Once a player hath shoutest, "Amen," play may prolong for a second round. Continue until another player hast completed the shaded cross marked upon his card.

IV. Thou mayest interchange words of singularity and plurality. Crutches and crutch shall be of the same value.

V. Yea, you may use one word doubly on the same card. For example, if the televangelist utters, "Holy Spirit," and your card possesses both Holy Spirit and spirit, you may mark both squares. However, if the televangelist utters only, "spirit," you may not mark Holy Spirit.

VI. Thou shalt not mark phrases uttered unyoked. If your card possesses the phrase money order and the televangelist speaks, "Send your money and order now," thou shalt not walk in the Valley of the Marked Square.

VII. Thou shalt not steal.

VIII. Thou shalt not make use of homophones. Idle may not count as idol. Neither may vein count as vain.

IX. It is permissive to make use of words both spoken from the tongue and scribed upon the television screen.

X. Thou shalt respect the exalted advertiser and postpone play during commercial breaks.



ROTLFMAO !

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bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 04-21-2003 20:43

I personally believe the majority of televangelists are the quacks of the Church in the US. People who fall victim to these people almost deserve to lose their money to them, if they're stupid enough to send it in the first place! It pains me to watch those shows... Even if it's only a click in between 2 channels. ick.

Notice, I did say most... I haven't seen it yet, but the possibility exists that there could be a completely honest televangelist out there somewhere... If someone comes across that person, let me know. I'm curious...


Bodhi - Cell 617

Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-22-2003 01:33

yeah, even as a xian the purple-haired lady freaks me out a bit the thing is, from what i've read about some of them (like the purple-haired lady and her husband on tbn for example) they do really do a TON of outreach/community service/donation kinda stuff which i think is awesome. i think it comes down to the particular individual watching, everyone has a certain style that appeals to them and apparently there's a significant population that that appeals to.

i go to a rather large church that's actually on tv a few times a week, both our services and some discussions and interviews with our pastor and his wife are broadcast. when we started doing that he let it be known that he would never ask for any kind of donation on tv because of the negative reputations of televangelists (and because we didn't put the service on tv to make money). definitely a guy with some integrity that i have a lot of respect for.

chris


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Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 04-22-2003 03:17

The guy with the burnt face freaks me out. I'm not sure if you guys have seen him, but it really freaks me out. Especially on those late nights when I have been hanging out with the peace pipe....

Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-22-2003 05:03

if you're talking about dave roever, which you probably are, i've actually met and chatted with the guy (he was burned over a large percentage of his body by i think a phosphorous grenade when he was in special ops in vietnam). he is definitely strange-looking, but has an absolutely amazing story, is an incredibly sweet guy, and is also extremely sarcastic and quick when he speaks to groups, really entertaining.

(he's not a televangelist btw, just happens to come on some shows as a guest from time to time)

chris


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MindBender
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: a pocket dimention...
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 04-22-2003 16:36

I enjoyed Leap of Faith with Steve Martin, does that count?


It's only after we've lost everything...
That we're free to do anything...

georgetwn girl
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: New york. New York
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 04-23-2003 00:25

I think they should be paying taxes like the rest of us suckers...
Many such as Pat Robertson, are mixing politics and religion pushing their agendas on others... They are really stretching the 'separation of church and state".
Many are just phonies.....with remarks such as "God told me to buy a satellite" (at your expense though) hehe Both Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell blamed gays and abortion as the reason we were attacked on 9-11.

"whenever I find myself on the side of the majority, I pause and reflect. " Mark Twain

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-23-2003 01:30

For the most part, I cringe when I see them. Many of them, probably most, are charlatans and some of them have been proven to be such.

I'm thinking primarily of the "faith healer" variety right now. A few years ago, one of them was caught getting a radio feed from his staff as he pretended to hear from God about details of the audience's problems. The staff had mingled with the audience prior to the service and gathered juicy info to tell the faith healer.

There are evangelists on TV that are not charlatans too. They do a wonderful job and there is nothing wrong with asking for donations in those cases. The bottom line is that there needs to be accountability and you should *never* send money to any organization that you haven't checked out first.

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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-24-2003 14:47

MindBender - I'm in that movie.


Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 04-24-2003 15:09

Fig - I'm sure he is real nice and all, it's just when you are flipping through the channels it can be quite a surpise. also, I know he had his own show for a while, at least in Texas, because he was on the religious channel all the time.


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Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-24-2003 15:28

I think it's like anything else. There are bad apples mixed with the good. I personally love Joyce Meyer. I've read several of her books and watch her often.

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-24-2003 15:46

Well, I'm happy to say that they don't have any on TV here in Germany...

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 03:48

Why is that?

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-25-2003 11:15

Because I just don't like watching stuff like that...Iknow, I know, I don't have too...but still...I don't think it really belongs on TV. I have a very large amount of distrust in TV Evangelism...

If someone really feels that they believe, then why advertise it? And why on TV? Why ask for money? Anytime someone who professes to believe, asks for money, my suspicions go up...as to the intent.

Or did you mean, why doesn't Germany have it? I don't know...could have something to do with the laws here...I'm not sure.

Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 14:11

A lot of them have a huge church and do TV to reach shut ins (elderly and stuff) and to reach people that don't attend church. They ask for donations to help cover the TV cost. However, some as I said before, are just crooks. It's like anything else. There's good mixed with some bad. However, I do understand why people have red flags go up. For me it's discernment.


bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 04-25-2003 15:50

I disagree with playing on someone's spiritual beliefs in order to acheive personal prosperity, however, asking for donations to support a genuine television ministry is different. As long as the funds can be proven to be going into the operation of the ministry and it's associated charities. I'm all for auditing of those sorts of things. Too many crooks in the world. Anyone remember Tammy and Whatshisname Baker? *shudder*

We discussed faith healers and channelers in this class I took last semester, the majority of people "healed" in those things are only experiencing the effects of adrenelin and endorphins during the service, but later on, generally suffer worse, and sometimes die because of the exertion demanded on the show. Faith healers never follow up with their "patients"... When debunkers follow up with those people, they are rarely ever "healed"...

The current "fav" channeler is James van Praagh - anyone ever catch him on TV in the late night? He uses the same ol' tricks as any of them... but people still believe he's talking to their dead relatives... I suppose the fact that people continue to believe in that sort of crap is the main reason these people have any sort of success, but I just have to shake my head...

Bodhi - Cell 617

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 20:40

Red flags *should* automatically go up. That is more than appropriate and that is why you should only give to organizations that voluntarily publish and submit their financial statements to watchdog organizations. All the reputable one will supply this info and it is the responsibility of the giver to give *responsibly*.

I am not familiar with James van Praagh, but I have watched "faith healers" for many years and am well aware of their tactics. God will be their judge for what they are doing.

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