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e-maestro
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Northwestern Lower Michigan, USA
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-27-2002 21:01

OK OK I know I need to start using CSS for positioning, but right now I need to make sure this site still works in NN 4.75, and yes I hate tables.

Problem.... (note...I don't have the images uploaded so they don't come in, but you will still see the problem)

The table surounding the form looks fine in IE5, but stretches off to the right in NN 4.75. I have no idea why, have worked on it for quite a while and am totaly frustrated.

There has to be a better way to do stuff like this...like CSS probably, but what do you do to get a solid narrow border around something in NN 4 since it doesn't support border-style?

HERE IS THE LINK TO THE PAGE

Any help would be GREATLY appreicated!

OH...I just noticed that some of the styles aren't coming into NN either. What the #$%@! I did upload the style sheet.

e-maestro



[This message has been edited by e-maestro (edited 03-27-2002).]

kuckus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin (almost)
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 03-27-2002 21:50

e-maestro, wow, you are the second one who signed my guestbook! I'll add the organist option soon

If it's only the border around the table, then you could use nested tables: http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum4/HTML/000060.html

I didn't have a closer look at anything else, but maybe this already helps.


kuckus

e-maestro
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Northwestern Lower Michigan, USA
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-27-2002 22:41

THX

I guess I had seen that, but when I did my search I couldn't find it.

I will try some of this, but I think there is something else going on with NN, cause I have so many nested tables on that page.

CPrompt
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From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 03-27-2002 22:45

I'll have a look at it when I get home. I don't have NN4 at work. You will have to go with nested tables though as CSS positioning doesn't work in NN4.

For a business site, this would be the way to go IMHO. Don't want to have to do a bunch of different pages for the same site just because someone won't upgrade their browser.

I will check it out and hopefully give you something to work with.

Later,
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e-maestro
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Northwestern Lower Michigan, USA
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-27-2002 23:55

I've been working on it a bit more.

The problem is being caused by the size of the INPUT text boxes. It seems that NN must apply the CSS for the current text to the INPUT. Creating a INPUT definition in the style sheet seems to be helping to solve the problem.

I don't have all the details worked out, but at least I know what is going on -- at least I think -- and I just thought I was starting to figure out CSS!

OH, how I HATE Netscape!

e-maestro

Bugimus
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From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-28-2002 06:46

NN4, NN6, and IE all render form elements differently even if you specify the exact same size in your tags.

Specifying the CSS for the elements will help but you will never get them to be the same size with that method alone. If you need them to be really close you will have to detect the browser type with Javascript and then use document.write's to dynamically write in the appropriate size values in the input tags.

I think you will find that NN6 and IE are much closer to each other than NN4 is to either of them. I hope that helps and, yes, this is an extremely frustrating cross-browser issue.

. . : newThing

e-maestro
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Northwestern Lower Michigan, USA
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 04-02-2002 18:39

THX Bugimus

Your comments are helpful.

I am moving this to the "CSS" forum since it has turned into it has gotten more CSS specific and still is a problem.

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