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Armen
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 04-16-2004 18:36

hey all, after almost practicing on three pictures i'm finding my self much faster and easier at this... so this is what i'm working on... how is it?

stage 1


stage 2


what it should look like



-------If you can't see them here are the links--------

stage 1: http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=stage1&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

stage 2: http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=stage2&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

what it should look like : http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album135&id=whatitshouldbe&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Right-dead center
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 04-16-2004 18:42

#3 seems a little too dark to me. I like the direction of #2 better.

:::11oh1:::

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 04-16-2004 18:49

ditto as krets.

Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 04-17-2004 00:22

Also if the arms were folded then you would just see the finger tips of the left hand poking under the right elbow joint. as it is the left arm seems to be broken several inchs before the wrist joint

outcydr
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: out there
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 04-17-2004 00:34

really nice, but as already said too dark

the left arm is awkward - is that why you went so dark?

good work

(Edited by outcydr on 04-16-2004 15:37)

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-17-2004 01:31

Actually, the arms are not anatomically incorrect. They are not folded, the right arm is simply in front of the left. I can adopt the exact position the figure is taking in the drawing without breaking my left arm (thankfully).

However, it is a rather awkward position, as there is nothing holding the left arm in place, and with the way the left hand hangs straight down, it almost seems as if the left wrist would have to be bolted to the right elbow to maintain that position for any significant amount of time. Just trying out various positions with my own arms, I find it much more comfortable to either a) have my left hand flat up against my side (rather than hanging down--in the drawing the left hand would kind of wrap around the back, and you wouldn't see the fingertips), or b) having the arms actually folded, with the left arm on top, the left hand around the right bicep, and the right arm coming out from underneath.

It was only after I tried to start to describing the positions of my arms that I realized how hard it is to do just that. Try it with your own arms, though, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Armen
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 04-17-2004 08:47

Also if the arms were folded then you would just see the finger tips of the left hand poking under the right elbow joint. as it is the left arm seems to be broken several inchs before the wrist joint---probably cuz i haven't been to a anatomy class i screw in some cases...i guess the left hand should go up untill the wrist is hiding under the right arm, i'll fix that -
#3 is not the final work it's what it should look like, the main idea in my head. #2 is what i'm workiing on and it's not gona be so dark...
I chose the left hand to hang down because it represents somehow her frustration . . . willing to die.
What i'm not sure about is the Right hand & the arm they seem to me a bit anatomicly wrong, speciallt the hand...

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-17-2004 11:04

Armen: read my post above. The arms are not anatomically incorrect, they are just in an uncomfortable position. If you make it so that only the fingertips of the left hand are showing, then the arms will be anatomically incorrect (the left arm will be too short).

Think about it--the distance from your elbow to your wrist is the same for both arms, no? Thus, if you hold your arms one in front of the other so that the right wrist is in front of the left elbow and the right elbow is in front of the left wrist, you will naturally see the left hand sticking out beyond the right elbow, just as the right hand sticks out beyond the left elbow.

If the arms were crossed, as Morph mentioned, it would be a different story, but they're not crossed.

Of course, none of this discussion is really necessary. So what if you haven't been to an anatomy class? Don't you have two arms? Can't you put them in the same position as the figure in the picture? I can't draw for spit and even I can tell you that the position of those arms is anatomically correct--it's just not comfortable. Try to imitate it and you'll see that it's uncomfortable because the left hand is at almost a ninety degree angle from the arm. Just look at yourself in the mirror as you try a few poses and I think you'll get the idea.

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