Topic awaiting preservation: M$ will allow pirates to install SP2 (Page 1 of 1)

Interesting

At the bottom of the article it also mentions that IE will now have pop up blocking abilities.

:::11oh1:::

90% of this sounds good.

Things that bother me are the forced Media Player update and the "pestering" of the user to apply new patches.


 

Yeah, while logging your IP address, be careful with this kind of stuff.

Software piracy does not pay. It will bite you in the ass in the long run.

Sounds good.. but rather a large download. I also hear It's not such a difficult thing to mask yout IP address anyway.. so theoretically you won't have an ass to bite..

QUOTATION: I have noted that persons with bad judgment are most insistent that we do what they think best. (Lionel Abel )

Yes, it is easy to spoof your IP, but an analysis of the packets you exchange with the server by a competant internet securities technician will reveal this fact and also reveal your real IP address.


Justice 4 Pat Richard

Previous anti-piracy measures from Microsoft never stopped pirates from doing the upgrades.

You'll be able to download the pack from non-microsoft locations very soon, from which your IP address cannot be easily known by MS.

Worms and virus and stuff count on the lazy user, those that don't upgrade, don't patch, don't give a damn, and they are too many; likewise, they are not going to install sp2: they are lazy (or just ignorant).

And there are the afraid/cautious users, those that don't upgrade because they are too much afraid that the upgrade will make their system unstable; usually, they wait a long time before upgrading.

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And there are the afraid/cautious users, those that don't upgrade because they are too much afraid that the upgrade will make their system unstable; usually, they wait a long time before upgrading.

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mmmhmmm... and there are users who use software that does not support or run on the upgrades.

umm... like avid.

to name one.


[antique sigs are us]

Uhmmm, it's not usual to find softwares that would not run due to an OS upgrade. On contrary, I know a lot of them that require that you install the upgrade, or at least recommend it emphatically.

Any software that would not run because of an OS upgrade needs its own upgrade ASAP.

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MS Clarifies: No SP2 For Pirated XP Copies PingXao writes "Unlike earlier reports, this eWeek story says MS will not be allowing pirated versions of Windows XP to install SP2. They plan to release the update within a couple of months as everybody knows, but what's interesting is this quote from a MS spokesperson that supposedly explains their reasons for this approach: "... using genuine software is an important part of keeping systems secure and running smoothly because it means continued access to the latest security enhancements and product updates." Not that I blame them for not providing assistance to people who violate their copyrights, but I wonder if they actually paid someone to come up with that insightful explanation. Something like "We don't provide updates to pirates" would have done the trick. Why cloud the issue with talk about secure this and security that when the basis for the policy has absolutely nothing to do with security?"

http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/12/1923226.shtml?
tid=106&tid=147&tid=167&tid=185&tid=187&tid=99

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It's just not true.

I'm running the beta of the SP2, and the popup blocking is pretty sweet. Much smoother and nicer than the Google toolbar, my (previous) favorite blocker. At least the SP2 blocker blocks a little cleaner, and gives you an option to popup the window anyways (without reloading the page like the Google method).

Well as a xp user I never had a problem upgrading to the SP1 so I don't see SP2 being a problem either. Thing is I bought Windows XP Home Edition and it had one major problem. It would never restart, I contacted microsoft about it and they told me some steps to take to correct it, which never worked. I spent countless hours searching for a solution but never found one that worked. I formatted twice and it still wouldn't restart, it just hung up on the "Windows Is Shutting Down" screen. So after countless hours of trying to fix the issue I read somewhere that someone else had a similiar problem and they had went and bought XP Pro and it never happened again. Hell with buying another copy shit I spent 200$ on the first one, so I downloaded a copy of XP Pro and it's been good to go ever since. Now tell me why I should spend another 200$ for a copy of XP Pro when i bought home edition and it was crap? Sorry for the ranting but they (MS) just piss me off. I've felt like writing them a letter many times explaining my problems just to see what they would do. But I also don't want the man come knocking on my door for downloading pirated software so I let it go.

UnusualFrequency -=BmF=- Clan

As I said, it makes no difference.
As soon as SP2 is released, there will be a way to use it, even in "unauthorized" copies.
The bright side of being the leader is that, well, you're the leader, and if you are a monopoly, you can play the monopoly guy and ask hundreds of dollars for what is worth a few dozens.
The dark side is that you become the most targeted product in the world for piracy pleasure.
You're the leader both ways.

Paranois is a good thing, but....

Microsoft really don't give so much of a sh*t about domestic users that they'd break the law by using your logged IP address against you. They may deny service based upon anonymously verified registration/serial information, but they cannot personally identify you or your IP with the validity of your installation (though they are quite capable).

Microsoft makes no real money from domestic users (apart from those who are dim enough to pay for tech support, which makes up a substantial portion of Microsoft's income).

Microsoft's main concern is firms using multi-licensed corporate editions of their software. Anyone here heard of the "Microsoft Police"? No, they are not a wives-tale. They are inspectors sent around various companies to scrutinise the licensing for their software. If a 400-user license for a certain piece of software is being used on more than 400 machines, they'll fine the company to the hilt!

It is these business users who make the most money for Microsoft, and it is these users that Microsoft really wants to catch, as they can afford to pay, and pay, and pay some more for 'breaking the law'.

As for upgrades and service packs - I have not come across a single piece of software that cannot be cracked/hacked/pirated in some way, regardless of the sophistication of the protection. Look at how quickly XP was cracked for instance - their best (and most legally contraversial) attempt yet at making life difficult for honest software thieves.

Not that I would do such a thing ( ), but it was easy as hell to install and activate a copy of XP (simple registry hack) and then to install SP1, which could only refuse to install by discounting invalid software keys (of which there are MILLIONS available on the Net). XP-AntiSpy can then be used to remove certain settings that blatantly infringe upon your privacy.

XP installed in such a manner will function perfectly, will look valid to any online scrutiny, and will update without problems.

Disclaimer: I do not condone blah blah blah, and the opinion expressed here blah blah blah, etc, etc, accept no blame for blah blah, nor culpability in the case of blah blah blah, and so on...

Well there is a way to get by the piracy thing legaly. I've done it and have been very happy. I don't even have to worry about the license agreements. Just go here: www.slackware.org I know that it may seem like preaching or something but I've never been happier. I hate feeling like a criminal for using my computer, and XP was the reason I made the switch.


The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. --Groucho Marx

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At0mic_PC said:
I hate feeling like a criminal for using my computer, and XP was the reason I made the switch.

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Well according to SCO (as in Unix owners) you are a criminal if you are using Linux - in fact they are suing the biggest Linux users in the world including IBM and Google. So you can't really win, can you?

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Xpirex said:
It's not such a difficult thing to mask yout IP address anyway

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Why the hell would they want your IP address?
Are you going to mask your MAC unique address also?

Once the SP2 software runs it can verify if you have any cracked MS software - this includes your OS and your MS Office apps (Excel, word, access, visio, powerpoint, frontpage,etc.). I

If it finds evidence of illegal software it can either do a subtle delete of some dlls or system files or whatever and make your system unstable or die - or if they really want to have fun they can delete all the files in your program folders (yes, i've seen this and I can say 100% that is was booby-trapped software although not necessarily Microsoft's).

You will sue them after? good luck.

This could be an X-File...

...and so could this...




...possibly.

It's almost depressing to see so much bullshit flying around about an OS. Just pay for the shit and be done with it. Don't want to pay? There are free OS's avaliabale, use one of them. Want to act like a leet haxor and brag about how you hack your OS? Fine, do so, but do it elsewhere cause it's old, boring, and nobody really cares.

ALMOST depressing? You obviously don't need much help in that respect. What crawled up your intake??

There you go everybody - Cameron is a prime example of how happy and carefree your life will be if you actually go out and (god forbid) PAY for your OS...

It's true - you'll be able to wake up every day in the sure and certain knowledge that your bollocks actually belong to you, and are not in danger of being repossessed by Microsoft in return for years of back-licensing...



Cameron, it is obviously not such a boring subject to those who post here - and I for one, didn't boast about hacking my OS - just pointed out how easy it was to do so. You missed the point anyway - this was a C-O-N-V-E-R-S-A-T-I-O-N !

In short - take a chill pill and GFY. It only takes one miserable MF to ruin the fun for everybody, doesn't it?

I'm going to go and have a good cry now... *stomps off profaning and sobbing uncontrollably*

(I hope you're happy)

Dammit - I'd be happy if I could delete my posts here.

If anyone who can does, I'd muchly appreciate it. I wasn't entirely sober.

Seek not truth with deceitful intent...
...for that way lies the seed of dissent.

Looks like they've changed their mind. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/05/1241214