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InI
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posted posted 06-27-2004 21:18

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ninmonkey
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posted posted 06-27-2004 22:05

If you don't know how to chmod, you'll probably like this http://www.evolt.org/article/A_quick_and_dirty_chmod_Tutorial/18/541/

If you don't have linux installed, all the howto's are here http://tldp.org/

And of course, online man pages http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/ (I wish windows had man pages)

InI
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posted posted 06-27-2004 22:25

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Veneficuz
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posted posted 06-28-2004 00:07

grep is one of those programs that you don't understand how you could live without as soon as you get used to it.

Regular expresssion is another thing you should learn if you plan to spend a lot of time in a Linux enviroment. Most programs accept them as input, and they'll make your life a lot easier.

And once you know a couple of thing you can start working the real magic with piping and redirecting standard output and input

If you find yourself using sed alot (mention on the page InI linked to) you should also take a look at 'awk'. Similair to sed, but a little bit more advanced.

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(Edited by Veneficuz on 06-28-2004 00:08)

InI
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posted posted 06-28-2004 00:22

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WarMage
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posted posted 06-28-2004 05:23

Bah, sed and awk can take you a year or two of random use to master. I'll take the test if they aren't on it.

Dan @ Code Town

InI
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posted posted 06-28-2004 07:12

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Veneficuz
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posted posted 06-28-2004 13:20

Learning to use them is rather easy, as InI said. But to fully understand the potential of the programs you have to work with them.

If you have a text in front of you and you know that you should use sed to do something with it, it is rather easy to figure out how to make sed do it. The problems comes later on when you face some random text problem and you don't know which tool to use for the problem. Should you use sed? Or awk? Or what about grep? This is very it helps to have used the programs for some time, you'll have an easier time to figure out which tool is the right for the job.

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InI
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posted posted 06-28-2004 14:58

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Iron Wallaby
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posted posted 06-28-2004 19:11

I'm still getting used to awk... I've started with it and understand programs in it but havn't made any myself. I havn't used sed yet either. However, I'm a Perl junkie and love to make use of it (and often use one-liners where one would use sed or awk anyway, hence why I STILL havn't learned them too well after quite some time).

<3 perl, grep, cat, less, and ne.

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