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I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 05:26

I ask for several reasons... one being where do you like to go to get tabs/music? another being have you heard of http://www.powertabs.net they have an awesome program and site setup that allows you to find and download tabs/music and view it as it plays the notes in midi format. very cool, and also free!




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-01-2004 06:22

I aint much of a guitarist, but when I do....

http://www.tabrobot.com/ usually finds the tabs I want.

and this do-hicky does a pretty swell jobber of getting my fingers in the right place...

http://guitar.to/folder/guitar.html

hmmffftttt, they mucked up the page, but you can get to that Chord Generator by clicking the Chord Generator at the nav bar.

templar654
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Beyond that line...
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 06:28

I wish I could but me more cultured, I play the Piano.

I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 06:52

whoa, I come in to see what was said, didn't even plan on posting a reply yet, and a string on my guitar popped... that's the 2nd time today and both times I was nowhere near the guitar, but on the computer thinking about it... trippy

http://www.actiontab.com has a really nice little program for tuning your guitar, it has something like 4 common tunings and of course standard EADGBE. you click the button labeled "Low E" and it plays a propper low E, same with the rest of the strings. I usually only use that one reference note and do the rest using relative tuning.

eyezaer: I've seen that (or a very similar) chord generator before, but had lost the link. Thanks

templar: I only wish I knew how to play piano, but the most I can do is Mary had a Little Lamb, and even then it might take me a second to remember where to start




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

templar654
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Beyond that line...
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 07:09

Hey I'm no Motzart myself, I can play just about anything with my right hand just give me the notes but the only thing I can play with both my hands is a K9 something something by Motzart (I can never remember that name) that too just the first line after that is a right hand solo!!

Need alot of practice

metahuman
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: meme-contagion
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 11-01-2004 08:16
quote:
templar654 said:

I wish I could but me more cultured, I play the Piano.

More skill is needed to play classical music with a guitar than with a piano.

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Nocturne
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Netherworld
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 11-01-2004 08:48

I play the guitar too

... as for me, I manage to find most of my tabs and stuff at http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

DmS
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-01-2004 09:37

I've played for a bunch of years, still got the studio with all the stuff, just no time nowadays...
Some stuff I did way back: http://www.dmsproject.com/mp3/

I studied appr a year with a former GIT teacher, that helped
/Dan

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metahuman
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: meme-contagion
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 11-01-2004 10:25

I've played acoustic and electric guitar for around nine years. The first two years were my learning years and then I chose to forget all the songs I learned and work on creating my own. I've been strictly a player of only original music since then. I started with pop punk (a la Blink 182), went nowhere with nu-metal, shifted to Christian (!) praise rock, gradually progressed to mainstream alternative rock, found hard rock to my liking, then onward to blues in 2003, and now I have no clue what I'm doing. I just play guitar and whatever style of music that I feel like at the time. The other day I was going to post an ad as a guitarist looking for a band to start or join but I had no idea what style I wanted form the band around. That was annoying.

I don't have studio-quality recording equipment like DmS but for my purposes... plugging directly into my soundcard or micing my acoustic guitar suffices.

Here are some short recordings of mine. http://www.metavirus.net/music/ (2:55 minutes/seconds total)

Demos - 01 - Guitonica : Would be a great electronica song if I could finish it. Reminds me of Shadowrun club music.
Demos - 02 - Violinator : Some say the violin doesn't sound realistic but I've heard violinators play like that.
: These were engineered in Reason. Main themes are based on my guitar riffs imported from TablEdit.

Riffs - 01 - Riff A : Feels mighty good to hear dem notes ring.
Riffs - 02 - Riff B : Nice and slow. Tempo increases gradually and accidentally due to SoundForge effects.
Riffs - 03 - Riff C : Sounds Satrianish. I like it. I haven't used it in a song yet.
Riffs - 07 - Riff G : Starts out blues and goes somewhere unknown.
Riffs - 08 - Riff H : Excerpt from my masterpiece. Oh this song is great in its entirety. I can waste much time playing this on guitar without tiring. This is the piece by which I judge my talent. (2004)

Samples - 01 - King of the Blues
: Poor recording. Bad fuzz. Complete song has singer, two clean guitars, and nifty bluesy lyrics.

(Edited by metahuman on 11-01-2004 10:35)

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-01-2004 12:15

You guys are lucky to know how to play a guitar. I don't even know how to play piano. A friend tried to teach me when I was in the Philippines early this year and I already forgotten the keys. He taught me D-A-G-A for Ronan Keating's song.

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Blaise
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 11-01-2004 12:24

I find TabCrawler and the OLGA usually give me what I need. although I've never ever been able to find 'Bored' by Iggy Pop!

If you don't know how to play something it's just because you haven't practiced enough, you've a choice, make it.

Cheers,

Blaise

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 11-01-2004 13:39
quote:
templar654 said:

I wish I could but me more cultured, I play the Piano.





whatever I've played classical guitar for about 18 years. I'd much rather play classical guitar than piano.

Tabs are good just like tutorials for Photoshop are good to a point. They will teach you what you are hearing more or less. It would be more beneficial to train your ear to hear what is being played and learn then from the sound, not the notes. That being said, I always read the music for classical guitar, but I used to have a really good ear.

I can learn a rock song by ear a lot easier than I can a classical guitar piece.

Later,

C:\

templar654
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Beyond that line...
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 14:19

Hey it's not easy playin' a piano... ok it is but it's not with two hands!!

tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-01-2004 16:44

I play piano once in a while and guitar daily.

I've played electric guitar for about two years, mostly because that allows me to get into the higher frets and therefore better soloing but can play most songs basically equally good.
I also think I'm going to get into classicaly music a bit more. It's kinda interesting to play in forms that aren't really used much any more.

Ultimate Guitar and MX Tabs are good, Ultimate Guitar often having better tabs than the other one.

If a song doesn't sound right in 3 tabs, I'll go to my guitar teacher to find out what it really is. The guy's a mad man with his guitar.

Metahuman: just combine the things you like most about playing each style of music; certain riffs, cords that match with eachother throughout each style. See what you can combine and can't. Create a new style unique to the band.

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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Elizabethtown, KY
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 11-01-2004 20:08

www.mxtabs.net

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 11-02-2004 01:17
quote:
tntcheats
It's kinda interesting to play in forms that aren't really used much any more.



sure they are. classical music is still being written today

Later,

C:\

tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 01:43

Yes but it's not used much, at least not in comparison to other kinds of music.

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metahuman
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: meme-contagion
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 11-02-2004 01:47
quote:
CPrompt said:
classical music is still being written today

The pop punk band, Blink 182, uses many classic classical music melodies as the main riffs for their songs. Talk about unoriginality.

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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-02-2004 02:33
quote:
Blaise wrote:
If you don't know how to play something it's just because you haven't practiced enough, you've a choice, make it.



Well it's too expensive to learn that now. Although I have friends who can play guitars and other instruments they live in the Philippines.

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tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 03:09
quote:
The pop punk band, Blink 182, uses many classic classical music melodies as the main riffs for their songs. Talk about unoriginality.


Now that I didn't know. I was wondering how they could make that and have the rest of the song just power chords.

quote:
Well it's too expensive to learn that now. Although I have friends who can play guitars and other instruments they live in the Philippines.


Well, you don't need lessons. It just makes it faster.

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I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 03:51
quote:
tntcheats said:

Well, you don't need lessons. It just makes it faster.



I'll second that, because I'm coming along quite nicely just learning from a friend's dad. I'm getting the basics down, and have an ever-growing selection of songs I'm learning to play, most of which I'm teaching myself. I also have a couple that I'm working on writing, fairly simple stuff... one lately is Am Em Am Em G D C E but when I say Am, I'm actually talking about a chord I dunno the name of it's like an Am but you pick your index finger up... anybody know this one? tried to look at the chord generator page up there but it wasn't loading...




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 06:07
quote:
one lately is Am Em Am Em G D C E but when I say Am, I'm actually talking about a chord I dunno the name of it's like an Am but you pick your index finger up... anybody know this one? tried to look at the chord generator page up there but it wasn't loading...


Am = A minor.

e1---------
b2-1-------
g3-2-------
d4-2-------
a5---------
e6---------

I think E minor is
e1---------
b2---------
g3---------
d4-2------
a5-2------
e6---------

Can't exactly figure these things out too well without a guitar, so bear with me.

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fenja
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 11-02-2004 18:16
quote:
I dunno the name of it's like an Am but you pick your index finger up... anybody know this one?



I think it's called A5?

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-02-2004 19:47

Techincally it's an A4, an A5 depends on if you play the B string. A4 is kind of a wierd chord (the 4's are all kind of more technical than "real" chords) but the 5's are supposed to be only the root (A) and a fifth (In the case of A that would be E). These are your basic rock power chords because they are relatively simple and play well through various boxes. Adding the B string can add wierd harmonics through different boxes. (Also if you do the easy fingering of power chords with just your index and middle fingers you tend to kind of naturally mute the B string)

However that chord does tend to sound pretty good on an acoustic in the open position. You can also use the index finger as a hammer-on or pull-off coming into and out of chord changes to that to get some nice layering to the sound.



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I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 20:10

e | 0
B | 0
G | 2
D | 2
A | 0
E | x

that's the particluar chord I was talking about....

tnt: you were right with the Em

I'm learning new chords all the time, like I know 4 Ds but have no clue as to the name of 3 of them...

"power chords" I can play, barre chords I can't... I always mute the bottom strings. I have chubby hands and clumsy fingers to begin with, but the more I practice the better I get, and now I'm getting to where I can play barre chords right, but only on rare occasions. I have trouble making a B chord for the same reasons I have trouble with barre chords...




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 11-02-2004 20:23

Actually that chord I X I would be called an Asus2. It is more of a chord used to go from one chord to the next. The 'B' is the 2nd of an A chord (whether major or minor). Just go up the alphabet A - B. Since B is the 2nd of the chord...hence the name Asus2. The 'sus' means "suspended" If you go from your E minor chord and then to that chord, the 'B' is "suspended" over from the E minor chord leading to either an A major or A minor chrod.

An A4 chord would be if you did:

E | 0
B | 3
G | 2
D | 2
A | 0
E | x


see the 3 on the B string? That not is D which is the 4 up from the alphabet. A - B - C - D


quote:
Yes but it's not used much, at least not in comparison to other kinds of music.



Sure it is. Verse, Chorus, Verse, Bridge, Chorus, End

Later,

C:\



(Edited by CPrompt on 11-02-2004 20:24)

Thumper
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Deeetroit, MI. USA
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 11-02-2004 20:28

I used to frequent OLGA a long while back. Tab is a great way to pick up guitar especially if you learn by ear. I played cello for 4 years too. Way different from guitar however.

My band: http://www.lunaslovechild.com

I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-02-2004 20:37

Thanks C:\

that does make alot of sense




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

rotren
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Camrose, Alberta, Canada, Hörnefors, Västerbotten, Sweden
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-02-2004 22:01

I've played for 22 years, and I find it most accurate to transcribe songs myself. Many times, tabs are just so incorrect it's almost funny. Transcribing is also one of the best ways to practice the ears and become better on the instrument.

Btw, I just bought a new guitar, see my new Telecaster on my website

www.dolphinstreet.com/music

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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-03-2004 00:03

I'd love to learn though.

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I X I
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: beyond the gray sky
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-25-2004 09:15

::bump::

wow, three pages deep, I thought I'd never see it again!

I'm lucky enough to be getting my first electric this christmas, an Epiphone SG-Special. it's used, but in really good condition. I'm getting it from a friend I went to school with.

pictures of a similar guitar

one month left, hope I can hold out till I get it I'm only giving $60 for it, which is a STEAL in my opinion. I'm going to have to find an amp for under $40, though.

anyway, just wanted to share the news.
happy turkey day!


Some people say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one (John Lennon)

DmS
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-25-2004 11:58

I've got 2 electrics.
One older neck-through ESP Horizon, similar to the HORIZON Custom over at http://www.espguitars.com/esp_custom.htm but in perl white with a sloping Jackson style head. It has two single coils and a Jeff Beck humbucker and I've modded it with a fully floating floyd rose tremolo.

Then I've built one myself from a bought bolt on neck and a body thats cut to closely resemble a rounded off version of the EX-400 LTD at http://www.espguitars.com/ltd_ex.htm
That one has no tremolo and an active humbucker. A brutally fat rythm sound

I'm running this through a rack with an older stereo Mesa Boogie Studio tube preamp, a separate compressor, stereo eq and a digital effect processor (DSP 128 +) topped off with a 2x150 watt solid state amp and 2 1x12" speakers. I used to have 2 4x12" marshall cabs but that was sort of overkill as I stopped playing in a band... But man, did that setup move a lot of air
/Dan

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