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Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 21:01

hadn't seen anyone talking about this film yet (other than eyeazer and i briefly mentioning it in the ep III trailer discussion) so i thought i'd start up a thread.

i caught an early showing last friday and its the best film i've seen in...i don't even know how long. very different for pixar in certain respects, really took its time developing the plot and characters, and i think that helped make the relationships SO real. the sets were fantastic and the animation and technical side of the film were amazing as well. the score had this very cool jazzy/retro/superhero feel to it...there's really nothing i didn't love about this movie.

i'm trying to figure out when i can go see it again...

chris


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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 21:11

It was great! But, it wasn't for the kids.

Dan @ Code Town

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 21:17
quote:
WarMage said:

It was great! But, it wasn't for the kids.



Oh, Pixar will be catering for them in their next movie: Cars. (This trailer made me weep uncontrollably. I expected a lot more and better from these guys. They did Nemo f'Crissakes.)

I'll be seeing the incredibles the first chance I get.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 21:27

Yeah, the incredibles was a really entertaining film. The characters were very realistic and the action was a lot of fun to watch.

Cars doesn't look so great but they have a long way to go on it, so you never know.


 

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: raht cheah
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 22:57

not for the kids?!?!

was looking forward to taking my 4 year old boy to see it, what's up, do tell...

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 23:08
quote:
Slime said:
The characters were very realistic



Cough.

(Although you propably refer to their emotions and the dialogue. Just trying to be a smartass, nevermind me )

(Yup, I'm still sad that Square's level of realism has never been tried again in rendered cinema )

Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 11-10-2004 23:25

Too bad Square can't write a plotline to save their lives.

Now, if Pixar directed and teamed up with Square...

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

Moon Dancer
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Lost Grove
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 11-10-2004 23:28

JK - He'd probably get a kick out of the animation, (and there is some funny, slap-stick type humor) but without getting too much into plot, this movie is actually surprisingly adult in its themes. It's not that it's sexual or too violent, it's just the issues that are brought up. He may pick up on some of it, (and probably will, we never seem to give kids enough credit) I just don't know that it would be very...interesting.

Overall, I thought the movie was fantastic. The character development was well done, they actually had some depth. Pixar in general does a good job with creating great characters, but this was their best so far (IMO). I would enjoy seeing additional work done with the Incredibles - be it through TV (though they better do it justice!!) or another movie. Then ending was certainly left wide open enough!

My only complaint was the theater neglected to show the SW ep III trailer...

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-10-2004 23:30

Yes, mahjqa, I was referring to the aspects of the characters other than appearance. =)

Actually, I read an article saying that they kept the people in the movie cartoony on purpose. The reason is that it's much easier to relate to a cartoon character than it is to relate to a very realistic but not quite perfect looking character. If you shoot for realism and fail (and it's never really been done successfully), the result is much worse than if you go for a different look. Given that this was Pixar's first movie to actually feature humans, I think it was a wise decision.


 

Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-11-2004 03:34

Both toy story and monsters inc. had humans (albeit not the as the stars), although its damn clearly obvious that they always aimed for cartoony proportions within a realistic style. Big eyes, and 'babyy-ish' faces. Damn Mickey Mouse for starting that trend.

I have not seen The Incredibles yet 8it is not even out here yet), although I have the intentions of seeing it.

Am I the only one that actually enjoyed Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within? It wasn't brilliant, but I liked how the whole story flowed with sense and not just mindless ultra kablabstic battles with super battelcroizahs and stuff around. Then agian, I love many movies that are WAY slower paced.

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(Edited by Alevice on 11-11-2004 03:35)

Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-11-2004 05:21

jk, all the kids in the theater with us loved it, esp dash's scenes. the pacing is different than pixar's earlier stuff and it is more focused on the relationships within the family, character's individual struggles, etc., but like all pixar's work there's some fantastic action and humor for both kids and adults. i haven't talked to anyone of any age who hasn't thought it was phenomenal.

i really wouldn't classify the incredibles character design as cartoony, they're certainly caricatured to a certain extent but not really cartoony. their animation was much more subtle than the non-human characters in their other films and while not necessarily looking photoreal i had a lot more attachment to them than the characters in final fantasy or even the human characters in shrek/shrek 2.

honestly, i don't want to see anything like final fantasy again. i didn't dislike it (tho i found the story and character development lacking) but there was a certain dead quality to the characters, a few shots were phenomenal but overall the facial animation was severely lacking. what i don't understand is why you want to animate photoreal people, if you want photoreal people then there's these things called "actors" that are a whole lot cheaper to do some like final fantasy with actors composited into digital backgrounds (a la sky captain), given a good story, could be fascinating.

chris


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eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-11-2004 05:39

Ooh, i think one scene made me jump just about outta my seat. I was like, Wow! its a cartoon! Get a grip! No! Its real!

The story was very charecter driven... the plot was not at all, but i think it was mostly there to support the charecters. heh.

Yah, JK, no... kids would get scared, couldent follow the story, uh... would see dash and then try to run real fast and probably hurt themselves.

So yah, dont take the kiddo, Take me instead.



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