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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-11-2004 00:36

My friend's, let's just say in Grade 11 right now, and his dad want's his family to move back to his old country. But he doesn't want to because he's not certain of what he's life would be out there. He decides to be admitted in a certain Military Academy just to get away from his dad. He's been commenting and arguing about this problem with his dad but his dad won't listen to him. He really wants to stay in the country where he's living right now. What do you think he should do?

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(Edited by Yannah on 11-11-2004 02:08)

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-11-2004 02:45

I'm sorry, Yannah, but you've not provided enough information to comment on. At least not for me.

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WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 11-11-2004 03:09

We don't always get what we want.

That said, I would strongly suggest that the friend sit down with his parents, and attempt to understand why his parents have decided to do this, if possible.

At that age, it is not always obvious as to why something as traumatic as moving has to be done.

I think he should do everything that he can to get a two way communication path going. If his parents love him (and I am sure that they do, I would hope that they do), then I am sure they have what they feel are very good reasons for doing what they are doing.

Other than that, I have to agree with Bugs here.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-11-2004 12:00

Well my friend's mom already left with his sister to their old country and he's not that sure if his dad loves him.
What information do you want? Maybe I could ask.

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(Edited by Yannah on 11-11-2004 12:01)

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-18-2004 00:40

He might be leaving soon, I believe on the 16th of Dec. 2004 is what his father have in mind.

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WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 11-18-2004 08:53
quote:
Well my friend's mom already left with his sister to their old country and he's not that sure if his dad loves him.



Why didn't the Dad go with? Something tells me, that the parents are not trying to destroy their sons life. They probably have very valid reasons for doing what they are doing.

If he is not sure that his Dad loves him, I suspect that there is a massive communication problem. But that is just my perspective from the outside.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-19-2004 01:37
quote:
WebShaman said:

quote:

Well my friend's mom already left with his sister to their old country and he's not that sure if his dad loves him.


Why didn't the Dad go with? Something tells me, that the parents are not trying to destroy their sons life. They probably have very valid reasons for doing what they are doing.If he is not sure that his Dad loves him, I suspect that there is a massive communication problem. But that is just my perspective from the outside.



Actually that's the problem, they don't communicate calmly. The dad would always reaise his voice whenever his son starts questioning him in a lower voice.

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Sangreal
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: the league of Professional Mop Jockeys
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 11-19-2004 03:11

Hmm... I was going to suggest that he talk it over with his dad but that may not be possible. He may try discussing it with his mom or (if this makes since) discussing it with his father through his mother. Otherwise he should try to look at it from his parents view then his view and decide whats best on his own.

History is nothing but a fable that has been agreed upon.
-Napolean Bonaparte

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-19-2004 03:16

He already talked to his mom about his mom told him to convince his dad to let him stay, and that's what he did. His dad said that if they don't like staying much longer in their old country they might go back. MIGHT!

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tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-19-2004 04:27

I really doubt that they will go back if they move; he'd have to move back to his current country when old enough.

I'd say that he really has little choice besides discussing with his father, however uncomfortable it may be to have his father yelling I think it's probably the course he needs to take (unless it could result in injury). If his parents can't be persuaded, tell him to think very very hard over whether or not it's worth it to be admitted into a Military Academy.
Make your own choices in this matter, take what advice you will--but remember what we say is just ADVICE and it's your responsibility to determine if it's good advice or bad advice.

- James
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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-19-2004 07:12
quote:
tntcheats said:

I really doubt that they will go back if they move; he'd have to move back to his current country when old enough.I'd say that he really has little choice besides discussing with his father, however uncomfortable it may be to have his father yelling I think it's probably the course he needs to take (unless it could result in injury). If his parents can't be persuaded, tell him to think very very hard over whether or not it's worth it to be admitted into a Military Academy.Make your own choices in this matter, take what advice you will--but remember what we say is just ADVICE and it's your responsibility to determine if it's good advice or bad advice.



Me?
He'd be better off to a Military Academy atleast he wouldn't have to depend to his father's money to go to University.

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Gideon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: rooted on planet Mars, *I mean Earth*
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 11-20-2004 04:26

If it were me I would want to try and keep my family together, but I don't know the whole story, only he and his family does. It is sometimes neccessary to leave your family if the cause is great enough. I guess it kinda depends on the country, what his reasons for staying here are, what some good things would be for going to this country, some bad things. He is just going to have to weigh these things and he shouldn't come to a conclusion very quickly.

One thing about psycological stuff for moving is that I know from experience that children don't adjust well to moving durring their childhood years, especially during highschool. It is a very difficult manuver, and he shouldn't do it unless he really thinks it is a good idea.

And I agree whole heartedly-these are only suggestions and advice, we do not know this person, nor his whole situation, and this is only something he and his family can decide.

Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you, rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-22-2004 03:26

I don't think he'll be in good hand if he stays with his father.

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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-22-2004 05:07

Is there an actual reason why he wouldn't be in good hands staying with his father? If his father is just unpleasant why not just move and then move back in another year when he's 18?

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-22-2004 05:23
quote:
Jestah said:

Is there an actual reason why he wouldn't be in good hands staying with his father? If his father is just unpleasant why not just move and then move back in another year when he's 18?



Well, his dad is some kind of a person who thinks he's all that but he's not. And when he's not in the mood he'll get mad at him for no reason.

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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-22-2004 06:16

Yannah -

There's a large difference between that and someone who is abusive. You haven't posted anything to imply that your friend's father is doing something wrong. Instead, it sounds like your friend is just upset because he's moving. I'm sure it's upsetting to leave the life you knew but I imagine his parents are moving for good reason. The reality is though your friend is almost an adult. For the time being he has little choice in where he lives but in another year or so he'll be 18 and old enough to choose where he wants to live.

Edit: Actually, that's assume in whatever country he lives in 18 is the legal age in which someone becomes an adult.

(Edited by Jestah on 11-22-2004 06:17)

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-23-2004 01:46

My friend's dad had hit his sister a lot of times. And his other sister as well. Actually, his dad had hit all of them, he threw hot chicken stock to their mom before.

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tntcheats
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: BC, Canada
Insane since: Jun 2004

posted posted 11-23-2004 04:13

Well, if that's the case then he should be abandoned and forgotten. I know it's hard to get justice in cases where the father has beaten and/or abused children and justice is never served.

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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-23-2004 23:58

I know, and he knows.

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