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MW
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 48°00´N 7°51´E
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 12-21-2004 05:20
quote:
[...] nearly two thirds (63%) agree that the government should be able to detain indefinitely suspected terrorists. 

Christians with a high level of religiosity are almost twice as likely to agree [...] that the media should not report criticisms of the government in times of crisis (44%), when compared to respondents with a lower level of religiosity. 

Forty-two percent of highly religious respondents believe that Muslim Americans should register their whereabouts with the federal goernment.



quote:
This report is a summary of the key findings from the 2004 national omnibus survey of public opinion and media use, conducted by the Communication 282 Industry Research Methods class in the Department of Communication located at Cornell Univesity. 



http://www.comm.cornell.edu/msrg/report1a.pdf

[edit]special character messup[/edit]

(Edited by MW on 12-21-2004 05:22)

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 12-21-2004 05:42

That is an interesting conclusion, on that I would have never have actualized on my own.

Am I correct in reading this as those who favor religion favor being controlled?

I wouldn't have been as shocked had the margins been close... but a majority of issues can't be covered by a margin of error the gaps are just too great.

Dan @ Code Town

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 12-21-2004 06:18

*shrugs*

The findings are not that surprising, IMHO.

Schitzoboy
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 12-21-2004 07:26

I don't mind christianity, but the ignorant dogmatic fundamentalist flavor that has become so prevalent lately is horrible. Thats all I have to say about that.

And is religiosity a word?

mobrul
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 12-21-2004 15:18

(If Shakespeare can make up words, so can we...)

Anyway, the numbers you cited are, indeed, in the study, but let's not look over the fact that "Nearly half (44%) of al respondents agree that at least one form of restriction should be placed on Muslim American civil liberties."

That's regardless of one's religious affiliation or "religiosity". Look around you. 10 people in your office? 4 of them would like to suspend the Constitution (in whole or in part) for some subset of our citizens!

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 12-21-2004 17:03

You are correct. Any way I look at these stats they are fucked up from head to foot. At the lowest level 30% of our country doesn't believe people should have the right to protest, and again close to 30% don't believe you should have a right to criticize.

If we average these numbers out I am sure both will come closer to 40%. Which is say 40% of our country thinks that we should all just shut up about our problems with the government.

I don't see how these sentiments can exist in the US. Not only is it our right to protest, it is our duty. Protesting is not a bad word, it means that the people are standing up and showing our government what we want. Everyone should actively partake in some form of protest, because no matter who you are there has to be something about this government that you don't like. We are not perfect. Don't fall into a trap thinking we are.

It really just seem fucked up...

Dan @ Code Town

(Edited by WarMage on 12-21-2004 17:04)

Gideon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: rooted on planet Mars, *I mean Earth*
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 12-21-2004 17:20

I am really leery when it comes to statistics, because they can easily be swayed one way or the other. But I agree, if they government does something that you think is wrong you have the right and obligation to stand up for what you believe in.

Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you, rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 12-21-2004 19:15

Gideon, don't agree with me... your going to end up giving me a bad rap

Lies, Dirty Lies, and Statistics it is.

Dan @ Code Town

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 12-21-2004 21:08
quote:
The survey was conducted between October 25 and November 23, 2004; it consists of 715 interviews from
a national listed household sample...
The margin of error for reported nationwide results is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.
Margin of error may be higher for reported results from sub&#8208;groups.



Rather small sampling if you ask me.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 12-21-2004 21:28

Most surveys/polls are....

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 12-22-2004 00:20

They most likely had to contact 10,000 people in order to get those 750. It isn't easy to get takers.

Dan @ Code Town

Gideon
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: rooted on planet Mars, *I mean Earth*
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 12-24-2004 20:37
quote:
WarMage said:

Gideon, don't agree with me... your going to end up giving me a bad rap



I'm sorry, I won't do it again.

quote:
WarMage said:

They most likely had to contact 10,000 people in order to get those 750. It
isn't easy to get takers.


And from the Negetive rule (or something like that) most of them were very strong about one decision of the question posed. Don't you just love statistics?

Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you, rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

Ehtheist
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Just north of nowhere, south of where
Insane since: Feb 2005

posted posted 02-04-2005 03:35

It is hardly surprsing the religious are in favour of shutting people up. If they can convince the government to do it once, they then can make an argumnent for preventing anyone from criticizing religion.

There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.
Oscar Levant
(1906 - 1972)

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