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Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-15-2005 05:14

I don't care what side of the debate you are on, I think we can all agree this is one sick puppy.

quote:
A Kansas City abortionist is out of business after investigators discovered a grisly house of horrors at his clinic ? with fetuses kept in Styrofoam cups in his refrigerator and one employee accusing him of microwaving one and stirring it into his lunch. ...more...



More on the same via Google News.


Ramasax

(Edited by Ramasax on 06-15-2005 05:19)

Diogenes
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posted posted 06-15-2005 05:28

If this is all true, I agree.

But it merely shows just a little of what women might look forward to if Roe/Wade is repealed.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 06-15-2005 07:36

I was going to post something flippant like "Them's good eating", but the very thought of it turns more than my stomach. What a sick f**k.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz.....

DL-44
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posted posted 06-15-2005 17:55

wow.

nothing else comes to mind...just......wow.

brucew
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From: North Coast of America
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 06-16-2005 01:55

Funny, there's no mention of unusual dietary habits in any of the other articles listed in that Google search...

Diogenes
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From: Right behind you.
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posted posted 06-16-2005 02:30

As I said "IF it is true". Sounds like something cooked up by someone who would wish to promote their own narrow view.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-16-2005 02:52

It would be easier for you to believe that considering your bias, but consider this before you start deflecting the topic with your standard lines Dio. Where is the media stance on abortion and how do most journalists classify themselves in terms of ideology? Would they want to hurt something they support? Would they want to give fire to the pro-life movement? Both sides play the game, and we all know how easily ideology can interfere with journalism in these times. That is my opinion anyways.

The AP report, for example, simply said the place was cluttered and dirty but did not go into much detail.

Here is a letter sent by the investigating detective to the KC house in which he describes the same allegations as the WND article.

Here are some photos of the clinic. (PDF Format)
The office
'Biohazard' area
Refrigerator
Fire exit

Regardless of the fetus eating allegations, this is disgusting.


Ramasax

(Edited by Ramasax on 06-16-2005 03:01)

White Hawk
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From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 06-16-2005 03:41

It seems to me that beyond any debate regarding the alleged act of consumption, the real issue is that a licensed practitioner performed any kind of procedure under these dire conditions and with such utter disregard for standards of hygeine, health and safety, or just plain decency. That a disorganised, inept and careless man like that could be in such a position is truly beyond reason.

I also find it startling that he had continued for so long without anybody making a substantial racket about it.

I still say he's s sick f**k, and it still turns my stomach.

Diogenes
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Right behind you.
Insane since: May 2005

posted posted 06-16-2005 07:29

Thanks for the back-up info Ram. Yup the guy appears to be a sick...what WH didn't say.

Just bolsters my view that these are the sort of conditons women used to have to brave and to which the anti-abortionists would have them return.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-16-2005 20:55
quote:
I also find it startling that he had continued for so long without anybody making a substantial racket about it.



This also had me wondering. What were the employees thinking? Why didn't they say anything about the state of this place? Was it sheer selfishness of not wanting to have to go on a job hunt, or something more? Should they hold some responsibility for keeping silent?

And that the law enforcment took so long to act is quite disconcerting as well, given the state of the place. The detective mentions this all in his report, and yet no one thought of immediately calling the area health department? If not, why not? They would be quick to shut down a restuarant with 10% of the dirt and debris of that place.

I'd be afraid to breathe the air in that place, let alone have any type of procedure done, be it an abortion or an ingrown toenail or even a haircut.


Ramasax

jade
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From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-16-2005 22:09
quote:
Just bolsters my view that these are the sort of conditons women used to have to brave and to which the anti-abortionists would have them return.



What about the condition of the few cells inside the womb that you regard as worthless? I don't think its BRAVE to have an abortion. Its sheer cowardice.

NoJive
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posted posted 06-17-2005 01:20

^ You must give the women's movement absoslute bloody nightmares.

Diogenes
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Insane since: May 2005

posted posted 06-17-2005 02:31

Not often one runs into a female mysogynist.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-17-2005 04:21

Would a female misogynist be one classified as hating what they are naturally inclined to do as the counterpart of men or one who rejects that inclination for unnatural purposes?

The feminist movment is about as anti-woman as you can get. It was created by the CIA in the late 60s to get them into the work force, destroy the family unit and civilization as we know it as part of the elite's master plan to usher in the New world Order. Gloria Steinem, the media darling and outspoken women's lib adovcate was a known CIA operative.


Ramasax

Diogenes
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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posted posted 06-17-2005 05:17

Umm Ram?

The tinfoil has slipped.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-17-2005 05:25

rofl, thanks.


Ramasax

Ramasax
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posted posted 06-17-2005 05:40

Some background:

http://www.namebase.org/steinem.html
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/ST-CIA.HTM
http://www.rense.com/general21/hw.htm
http://www.theconspiracy.us/vol9/cn9-47.html
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/pfp.htm
http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/festival.html

And BTW, tinfoild hats are for sissies, titanium is the way to go.

Ramasax

(Edited by Ramasax on 06-17-2005 05:43)

Diogenes
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Right behind you.
Insane since: May 2005

posted posted 06-17-2005 06:16

Some history which might tend to either refute your contention

quote:
It was created by the CIA in the late 60s

or suggest the 'conspiracy' was hatched before you were (look, is that a certain furue FBI director there in drag?).

But isn't titanium awfully hard to fold?

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

(Edited by Diogenes on 06-17-2005 06:17)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-17-2005 21:57

Still rofl.


Ramasax

ps: I don't really believe the whole thing above, except the first line. The rest is beyond even my conspiacy-ish beliefs.

pps: You don't fold titanium silly, they come prefab from the underground bases at Dulce, NM.

F1_error
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From: EN27
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posted posted 06-17-2005 22:15
quote:
Gloria Steinem, the media darling and outspoken women's lib adovcate was a known CIA operative.



That just made my skin crawl.

Diogenes
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Right behind you.
Insane since: May 2005

posted posted 06-18-2005 02:10

Gloria had that sort of effect on people.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
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posted posted 06-18-2005 10:03

Not a bad lookin' broad back in her day.

WebShaman
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Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-18-2005 11:13

Gloria Steinem and the rest just hijacked the grass-roots movement, which was founded in Northern California, in a tiny commune, at a mountain retreat on one certain weekend, with my mother being present and 3 other women.

The original women's movement was not what it would be changed into being, but rather more aimed at getting women equal rights under the Law, especially in the area of Violence against Women (of which the 4 women in that retreat had experienced enough of!).

What it grew into, is now a political monster, that really has nothing to do with legal equality and raising the issue of Violence against Women, but instead into a political machine that empowers women, whatever the cost.

My mother left the movement in disgust at what it had become, and instead is a member of a non-profit organization that helps women that are victims of domestic violence.

The CIA had nothing whatsoever to do with NOW as far as I know.

As for the topic at hand...I can only echo DL's sentiments.

Wow.

(Edited by WebShaman on 06-18-2005 11:14)

Diogenes
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Right behind you.
Insane since: May 2005

posted posted 06-18-2005 16:38

Now, Bella Abzug!

There was a woman who put the UG in UGLY!

If some women went to far with women's rights, it seems to me history and current goings-on pretty much justify the extreme.

Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
Isaac Asimov
US science fiction novelist & scholar (1920 - 1992)

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 06-19-2005 03:20
quote:
What it grew into, is now a political monster, that really has nothing to do with legal equality and raising the issue of Violence against Women, but instead into a political machine that empowers women, whatever the cost.



*nods*

Bella Azbug, yummy.


Ramasax

(Edited by Ramasax on 06-19-2005 03:20)

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