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cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 09-15-2005 12:02

Hello. Since I used to post art here, I will again. Mostly sketching; I can no longer sketch on 8*11, because I've gotten so accustomed to huge sheets of paper, which is what these were all done on. I posted some paintings (finished! omg) at the end of the last school year (July/June) which a few people saw.

As always, C&C appreciated. haha.

I actually haven't done ANY art all summer, and this is my first venture back:









(Edited by cfb on 09-15-2005 12:03)

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 09-15-2005 14:03

These are awesome, there isnt much to say yet...I want to see more, but you gotta work on your visual composition.
They kinda remind me of ficial&sa=N&tab=wi">Egon Schiele

Keep it up



(Edited by Ruski on 09-15-2005 14:06)

Amerasu
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The loft
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-15-2005 20:45

Good improvement again.

Nice artwork, especially the last few. Head and shoulders above your earlier work.

--Amerasu--

cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 09-17-2005 06:08

Thanks to both of you.

I have to agree with you there Ruski. I do need to work on my composition, perhaps because it's...horrible. Haha.

I love Schiele's work that you posted.

Amerasu
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The loft
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-17-2005 22:21

Why don't you try the Daily Sketch Group over at Concept Art? It gives you something to draw/paint every day and there are some amazing artists there who are quite inspiring. Whenever I can, I spend a hour or two doing a DSG. Some of mine are pretty crappy, some are decent enough but it's all a learning process and a good lesson in pulling together a painting.

I think you need to be more daring as you tend to draw the same kind of stuff over and over again. The DSG will push you out of your comfort zone and get you drawing lots of other stuff rather than the same teen characters we see above. It's a good learning tool.

One thing I've also found especially helpful is to go through the Loomis books (available online) and draw every anatomy pic he has in there. Alternate that with actual life drawings. I'm sure you can get someone in your family to pose for a few 5 min poses a couple of times a week.

--Amerasu--

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 09-17-2005 22:37

Toot! stay away from Loomis books dude, (sorry Amerasu) if you want to draw representation figure, you better do it from life...it can be a bitch at first but keep trying, ask other artists about their process and find yer own. (<--this probably wont happen unless you will go to an art school or find a group of kick ass artists)

As for composition, well just stop "sketching" around and work on the image as whole, instead of just doodling, try to actually work on image with some planing. Get inspired etc, do some thumbnales rought doodles, then get a nice clean sheet of paper and try to execute it.

Amerasu
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The loft
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-17-2005 22:52

I disagree. Loomis definitely helped me and a bunch of others on Concept Art which is where the recommendation comes from. Copying the work of established artists and masters is an age old tradition in learning to draw and paint.

I agree that drawing from life is the better scenario but that's not always possible for a young guy, especially with nudes.

--Amerasu--

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 09-18-2005 01:27

*shrugs* I have never copied any of so called "masters"

cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 09-18-2005 07:01

"Anatomy for the artist," I believe is the title, is another good book. It's just a bunch of model photographs.

Amerasu
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The loft
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-18-2005 07:46

Yeah, it's really good. I have it. The photographs are excellent.

--Amerasu--

cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 10-30-2005 23:48

I'm going to figure drawing sessions every Friday. This is my first and second time drawing from a nude (or really from life at all). I'll be updating every Friday/Sat after the class, which I plan to attend regularly.

If anybody's interested and in the Portland area, Hipbone Studios on SE 23rd and Ankeny has $8 figure drawing workshops on Sat (6:30 - 9:30), Sun (don't know the time) and Wednesday (1:00 to 4:00 or something).

to self-crit, I would say: focus more on the technical aspects. Although this isn't what I like to do, I like to work fast and messy and not neccesseraly accurate, it might benefit me. Also draw the hands, feet, and faces. I don't have a problem drawing faces, but capturing the models face is much harder than drawing a face from the imagination or reffed from a photo.

From 10/30. Second time. I missed most of the gestures because I arrived late.

30 mins:




gestures & 5 min.





From 10/23. First time. All my gestures are at school. All I have are the 15 - 30 min. poses.






DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-31-2005 01:23

Fantastic =)

Nothing beats drawing from a live model.

overall your form and shading are great.

Your biggest problem is the one you brought up your self - hands/feet/face

Keep in mind that the complexity of the hands, feet, and face mean that drawing them well usually takes about as much time as drawing the whole rest of the figure does.
You have a head start on your faces, but you will *really* need to work on those hands and feet.

Keep it up =)

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 10-31-2005 09:40

Yep!! Really good stuff there cfb. It's not just a case of you getting better and better... it's just really great to see someone do something they really enjoy, like and want to do.... and do it. =) Don't stop... EVER!

cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 11-02-2005 23:58

Thanks DL and NoJive =)

I agree DL, I think I've learned more doing this than I have drawing from books and photos. I can see my technique improving as well. My new philosophy on art, however, is more brute force than before. I was previously thinking more about "technique," etcetera, and nothing I did was very itneresting. I've been trying to just throw down ideas and bash something out, now. It's working better, and the technique develops along with it.

Yeah. Hands, feet, and faces are a bitch. Gah!

cfb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 11-14-2005 06:53

i think i'm almost hiding behind style.

I'm still mangling the hands; no comment on that needed! I didn't even think about it, when that's what I was SUPPOSED TO THINK ABOUT OMG!?

This friday:




i really like the breast and thight in this one.


trying out a new technique, kind of. instead of smudging the charcoal lightly into the paper, then erasing it like in the previous two, i used a white conte stick. i don't really like the results.

the gestures. not too proud of these ones:


Bmud
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Raleigh, NC
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 11-29-2005 05:52

Makes me want to pull out my sketchbook. It's been ages.

Shine and shine. :: [old cell]

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