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Lord_Fukutoku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: San Antonio
Insane since: Jul 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-13-2006 18:24 Edit Quote

Well, there were lots of things (like using the word "lots" in this context and making parenthesized comments in the middle of sentences). Another thing was coming up with 'odd' ways to 'manipulate' the absurdity that is American English (although I'm sure this isn't restricted to "American" English, or even English at all)

Enjoy: “Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo”

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(Edited by Lord_Fukutoku on 08-13-2006 18:25)

Blacknight
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: INFRONT OF MY PC
Insane since: Dec 2001

IP logged posted posted 08-13-2006 18:55 Edit Quote

it's funny but i dont think it still is an acceptable sentance

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 03:03 Edit Quote

Agreed. Amusing, but not proper English. It begins with the premise that "that" isn't necessary, which is absurd. "Dogs that chase cats" and "Dogs chase cats" are two entirely different sentences. The first is specifying a particular type of dog, while the second is a blanket statement of fact. I can make all sorts of ridiculous sentences if I take out whatever minor parts of speech I deem "unnecessary."

Then again, I was an English teacher at one point in my illustrious career.


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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 04:37 Edit Quote

(Double post.)

(Edited by Wes on 08-14-2006 04:38)

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 04:38 Edit Quote

Except that it's "Cats dogs chase," not "dogs chase cats."

Though I would still suggest keeping "that," as it makes it more readily comprehensible.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 05:04 Edit Quote

Ah, yes. Apparently I missed the point there. That's what I get from skimming without reading.

So scratch that post above.

And yeah, the "that" definitely makes it more comprehensible, but I think the idea was to make a sentence that was as incomprehensible as possible while still being grammatically correct. Like building an absolutely horrid web page that validates.


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(Edited by Suho1004 on 08-14-2006 05:04)

Maruman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: under your bed
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 05:49 Edit Quote

One thing my old english teacher hated was me

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 06:15 Edit Quote
quote:
First, suppose that dogs chase cats, who then chase mice.

What caught my eye was the use of 'who'... which I always thought was reserved for people. Cats, dogs,walls and rocks were either which or that. At least that's what I had pounded into my thick skull.

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SleepingWolf
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
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IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 13:44 Edit Quote
quote:

Wes said:

Except that it's "Cats dogs chase," not "dogs chase cats."



I think Suho was right the first time.

"Cats dogs chase", taken out of this context, could refer to the type of cats that dogs will chase (note the use of that). For example, a dog can selectively chase only black cats.

Dogs chase cats - well that's a different story - this describes a true dog's purpose in life.

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

IP logged posted posted 08-14-2006 15:48 Edit Quote
quote:
I think Suho was right the first time. "Cats dogs chase", taken out of this context, could refer to the type of cats that dogs will chase (note the use of that). For example, a dog can selectively chase only black cats.



I was pointing out that Suho had misquoted the page. You described exactly my, and the buffalo page's, point. That's what the phrase is supposed to mean, whereas "dogs chase cats" is something entirely different.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-15-2006 02:56 Edit Quote

Yes, mea culpa. I misquoted the page because I wasn't paying attention.

SleepingWolf
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2006

IP logged posted posted 08-15-2006 04:27 Edit Quote
quote:

Wes said:
I was pointing out that Suho had misquoted the page.



I apologize Wes. Or Wes apologize I.

I'm glad that at least you quoted me properly even though I misquoted you properly quoting Suho who had misquoted the origninal quote.



edit: origninal???? nevermind

(Edited by SleepingWolf on 08-15-2006 04:28)

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

IP logged posted posted 08-16-2006 18:10 Edit Quote

No problem. You just won't be eligible to enter the Win a Date With Wes contest (as described in my sig at the time of this posting).

Suho still qualifies.

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

IP logged posted posted 08-16-2006 18:57 Edit Quote

You trollup! Men need not apply I suppose.... or is it women? I have a hard time remembering who's straight and who's gay and who wants to marry their duck. The only thing I know for sure is that it all goes better with Nutella! =)

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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-17-2006 03:28 Edit Quote
quote:

Wes said:
Suho still qualifies.



Woohoo! Excellent!

Too bad I'm 6800 miles away from either of those places.

lan
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Darwin, NT, Australia
Insane since: Dec 2003

IP logged posted posted 08-17-2006 06:24 Edit Quote

^ Suho

O/T How goes/went it in the Land of the Rising Sun..... progress report if you please.... or should that be .... if it you please, please

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In a house built of t-square & triangles
Insane since: Dec 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-17-2006 09:35 Edit Quote
quote:

Maruman said:

One thing my old english teacher hated was me



LOL...opposite here, my teacher loved me *yikes*

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Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-17-2006 10:25 Edit Quote

Ian: Well, not much to report for the past few weeks, but a month ago we got back from a three-week trip to Tokyo and New York (pics at those links, in case anyone is interested). That's been the only excitement these days. Other than that it's just a bunch of work--translating, trying to write my dissertation, etc. In other words: fun!



Yannah: long time no see. Have some Nutella. It's on the house.

And what's wrong about being loved by your English teacher? Assuming we are talking about a wholesome love, of course.

(Edited by Suho1004 on 08-17-2006 10:26)

Gothmatum
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From: A place surrounded by turkeys
Insane since: Jul 2006

IP logged posted posted 08-17-2006 19:01 Edit Quote

My mother and I are both English majors, we really appreciated this humor!

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UnknownComic
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From: 2 steps away from a los angeles curb
Insane since: Nov 2003

IP logged posted posted 08-18-2006 02:51 Edit Quote

Dogs Love Cats!

They're yummy!

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Lord_Fukutoku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: San Antonio
Insane since: Jul 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-18-2006 15:09 Edit Quote
quote:
What caught my eye was the use of 'who'... which I always thought was reserved for people. Cats, dogs,walls and rocks were either which or that. At least that's what I had pounded into my thick skull.



Nah, animals are people too

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In a house built of t-square & triangles
Insane since: Dec 2002

IP logged posted posted 08-20-2006 10:06 Edit Quote
quote:

Suho1004 said:
Yannah: long time no see. Have some Nutella. It's on the house.

And what's wrong about being loved by your English teacher? Assuming we are talking about a wholesome love, of course.(Edited by Suho1004 on 08-17-2006 10:26)


Hey! Thanks for the Nutella, just what I need for my stressing school works.

There's nothing wrong about that Suho, I just didn't like the attention that's all.

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Moon Shadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Paris, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

IP logged posted posted 08-20-2006 17:49 Edit Quote

This website reminds me of the funniest moment I ever had during an english lesson... A few years ago, our English teacher tried to improve our pronunciation by telling us to repeat quickly special sentences... like 'Sue can chew her new, blue, true, glue stew at the zoo' or 'How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood'.

Needless to say, everybody ended up mixing up all the words, that was so funny

I think our teacher hated us all this day

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