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poi
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From: Norway
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posted posted 08-22-2007 17:29

There will be a total lunar eclipse on august 28, 2007. Hope some will be lucky enough to see it.

NoJive
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From: The Land of one Headlight on.
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posted posted 08-22-2007 18:02

Thanks for the heads up! Quite literally. =)

Can't remember where you are exactly... Sweden? .... Anyway I hope your summer's been better than ours... at least as far as looking up is concerned... pretty much a complete washout.

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Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
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posted posted 08-24-2007 12:10

I'm looking forward to this. I've had a very hard time trying to find information on it for viewers in Asia, though. I've tried both English and Korean sources and haven't come up with anything that would tell me the exact times for my area.

My Google fu is weak.


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CPrompt
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From: there...no..there.....
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posted posted 08-25-2007 00:06

I'm gonna catch this one. Looks like it starts in my area almost exactly when I get up for work

Later,

C:\

Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-25-2007 03:26

Thanks for the tip poi I'll be gazing skywards.
Master Suho I took it upon myself to try to cure your fu.
Here is a site called Antara news

quote:
The rare phenomenon will begin on Tuesday at 3.50 p.m. and last until 7.23 p.m., Lampung-chapter of BMG head Chrismanto said.

The very long lunar eclipse can be seen from Indonesia, the western and northern parts of South America, Pacific Ocean countries, the Philippines, Japan, Korea and the eastern part of Asia, he said


I'll just lash this link in from Indonesia giving some more detail even though it is not Korea. Also the graphic on this page shows the eclipse path over Korea where it says the moon rises during eclipse.
I've also found there is to be an extremely rare meteor shower on the 1st September it's called the Aurigids meteor shower In fact there are quite a few for the rest of the year.
Check out the list here for the remains of the year.

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-25-2007 04:23

Thanks for the info, Tao. I was able to find details for other Asian locations, but not Korea. I guess this means that there is no English info available on Korea yet. I was unable to find any in Korean because of the complete suckiness of Korean search engines. Once you get more than one term in a search, it just goes bananas. The search engines don't recognize quotes, so you can't search for a phrase--you end up getting terms scattered here and there, with some terms being ignored completely. I hate Korean search engines.

Then I decided to use Google Korea... and I got a whole page of stuff (including this photo with exact times). I am never using a Korean search engine again.

Anyway, it looks like I will be able to see the tail end of the full eclipse. The moon rises at 19:05, the sun sets at 19:07, and the full eclipse begins at 18:52, peaks at 19:37, and ends at 20:23. Because of the mountains in my area, it's likely that I won't be able to see the moon until after the peak.

Bad news on the weather front, though: right now the forecast for the 28th is cloudy and raining. Come on! The rainy season is over! Cut me some slack here, will ya?


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Tao
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posted posted 08-25-2007 04:28

lan
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From: Darwin, NT, Australia
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posted posted 08-27-2007 15:53

Waiting, waiting... clear skies here

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
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posted posted 08-27-2007 16:36

It won't be until tomorrow night for me... so far the forecast is for thunderstorms tomorrow during the day, clearing late in the afternoon. I just hope it clears enough...

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-28-2007 01:18

Dang it! In less than twelve hours the forecast has changed from clearing in the late afternoon to scattered showers in the afternoon then overcast!

What the heck is the point of predicting the weather if you're just going to change it all the time? Stupid weather people, getting my hopes up. I should have known, though--unless a celestial event happens in autumn, the chances of there being clear skies over the peninsula seem to be slim to none.

Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-28-2007 02:48

It's stiil touch 'n' go here though I'm still hopeful of clear skies. Weather people? Oh don't get me started.


[offtopic] Gosh Suho, do you know I've only just realised your sig is animated. Great stuff, what do the characters stand for? "Su" "Ho" [/offtopic]

(Edited by Tao on 08-28-2007 02:51)

NoJive
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From: The Land of one Headlight on.
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posted posted 08-28-2007 06:12

Calling for clear skies here. Believe it when I see it of course. Trick now is waking up at 3 ayem or staying up... until 4:27 ayem.

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Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-28-2007 10:21

Oh poo. It appears I have the wrong time in my head and I have missed it
I've just checked Stellarium and the moon had already set by the trime I started looking for it 08:15. My flakey loopiness astounds me at times.

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-28-2007 11:48

Moon rise occurs, well, right now here. But like I said, with the mountains there would be no way I would see it anyway. At the moment it's actually relatively clear, considering it was supposed to be overcast. There are still broad patches of wispy cloud, but I can see large swathes of the pale blue you get at dusk. Unless something changes drastically within the next hour (and the "forecast" now says its only supposed to be partly cloudy... sigh), I think I have a pretty good chance of seeing this thing.

I expect to be able to see the moon in anywhere from a half hour to an hour. The peak of the eclipse will be at 19:37 local time. I hope I haven't jinxed my chances with this post.



Tao: what you see in that sig are simply the Korean letters for "su-ho." Since Korean uses an alphabet (or a featural writing system, to be more precise), the letters don't actual "stand for" anything--they're just pronunciation. As for what the name actual means, well, I will refer you to this:

So what does Suho1004 mean?

(Clouds creeping on the horizon. Fingers crossed.)


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NoJive
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posted posted 08-28-2007 12:36

Clear as a bell. Quite a spectacle. I too very nearly missed it tho' because everything I'd heard... suggested it started at 3am. Well it was of course in full eclipse at that time. But I managed to get out there just a bit after 2am and watched the whole thing. And that's where it sits right now....now the unveiling. =)

It's also eerily quiet and my wife is outside with one of the neighbor's and her wolf dog. I'm waiting for the howling to begin. =)


Oh.... and something of a bonus. The dregs of the Perseids. Not an overwhelming number but enough to keep things interesting.

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Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
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posted posted 08-28-2007 12:43

Grrr... I can't see anything! I don't know if this is because it has clouded up considerably since my last post, or if the moon just hasn't risen over the mountains yet. It's been overcast the past several nights, so I haven't been able to time how long it takes after moonrise for the moon to be visible here.

The full eclipse is supposed to last another forty minutes, so I will be checking until then.

[Edit: in the meantime, I will have to settle for Discovery Channel Asia's live stream.]

[Edit2: Screw this. There is no chance of me seeing anything. I'm giving up.]


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(Edited by Suho1004 on 08-28-2007 12:44)

(Edited by Suho1004 on 08-28-2007 13:18)

lan
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From: Darwin, NT, Australia
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posted posted 08-28-2007 15:02

Weell... it was fantastic to see but I'm not very happy with my photos

Great viewing conditions... any suggestion to improve photgraphic technique much appreciated!

Here's a few from the hundred I shot:

Eclipse 1 273Kb

Eclipse 2 400Kb

Eclipse 3 184Kb

CPrompt
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From: there...no..there.....
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posted posted 08-28-2007 15:11

got up just a tad earlier than normal to catch it just to find that the clouds had taken over. Couldn't see a thing! Got nothing out of it but being a bit more tired than normal.

Later,

C:\

Lord_Fukutoku
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From: San Antonio
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posted posted 08-28-2007 16:52

Ah, blasted, I missed it. I can't believe I didn't notice. I had the dogs outside at 5:30 this morning, supposed to be the exact middle of the eclipse too

How incredibly frustrating...

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Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-29-2007 02:29

I'm so glad some of us had good luck with the weather and actually saw the eclipse. NoJive, seeing the meteors as well is just fantastic, you have lucky eyes
Great stuff Ian, actually getting some photos to share with us as well is just a treat. Which reminds me, I thought we might hear from Wes as I think I remember him saying he was practicing taking these type of photos with his telescope, although I may well be wrong there, the gathering years are having that effect.

quote:

lan said:

any suggestion to improve photgraphic technique much appreciated!


I am not very experienced in these things but tell me what camera you are using and I may be able to give advice tailored to your particular camera.
I'm using a Canon EOS 400D. For this photo taken tonight in a clear sky (I know, I know) I used a shutter speed priority setting, and set the speed far higher than the 1/4 sec suggested by the meter, this one was 1/400th sec if I remember correctly.

Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-29-2007 02:56

Oh and thanks for the explanation Su-Ho-Cheon-Sa, that little linky took me down memory lane to a thread four years old, when I was a Tao bay bee Happy 4000th post Suho
I know I spelt "practising" incorrectly in my previous post but it's getting late and I'm too tired to do all that editing malarchy.
:::Tao:::

lan
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From: Darwin, NT, Australia
Insane since: Dec 2003

posted posted 08-29-2007 08:02

^ Tao

Canon EOS D30 with a Canon 70-200 zoom lens. It sounds a bit way out but I wonder if it's something to do with the fact I need glasses but don't use them in the viewfinder... I've just adjusted the diopter naturally
But I can't see how that affects the image going to the sensor.

I never thought to wind the manual focus to infinity because some lenses wind back a bit... by my I the viewfinder image was crystal clear

Guess I'll just have ta wait 8 years and try again

All my other advisers reckon I've got a million dollar lens on a two dollar camera... but it didn't cost bloody $2 when I got it!!*!

I'd hate ta rationalize the purchase of a new body... camera that is and then find I just did somthin' stoooopid like not focus properly !!

Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-29-2007 12:23

Tao: Wow... that was indeed a trip down memory lane. It also reminds me how little I've been around lately. In little over a year after first arriving I managed to rack up 4,000 posts, yet over the past four years I've only added another thousand and change.

Maybe that's a good thing.

Ian: The second photo you linked to seemed to be digitally zoomed. As a rule of thumb I never used the digital zoom on my camera. It comes out really crappy. I get better results blowing stuff up in Photoshop.

You might also want to consider using as small an aperture as possible to give you the greatest depth of field. I honestly have no idea how much of an effect this will have on an object that is as far away as the moon, but it can't hurt. Of course, you'll have to expose longer. But, like Tao said, exposures for the moon are relatively quick because the moon is quite bright.


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Tao
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From: The Pool Of Life
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posted posted 08-29-2007 12:57

Silly me and blooming stupid Canon!
I've just spent an hour doing a side by side comparison of our two cameras so I can better understand yours Ian when I realised that Canon do a EOS D30 and a EOS 30D. Gadzooks!
I'm off to get a cup of tea before I have to go out. I'll check again later, your camera looks fine to me though, regardless what those other fellas say.

Lord_Fukutoku
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From: San Antonio
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posted posted 08-29-2007 14:37
quote:

Suho1004 said:

In little over a year after first arriving I managed to rack up 4,000 posts, yet over the past four years I've only added another thousand and change.



Two words:
Quality, not quantity

Or maybe that's three words...

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Suho1004
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From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-30-2007 01:54
quote:

Lord_Fukutoku said:
Two words:Quality, not quantity



Um, thanks. I think.

quote:

Or maybe that's three words...



Quality, ~quantity

Now it's two words.

And as for Ian's photos, I thought the first one came out rather well. It's a heck of a lot better than the photos I got (that would be none).


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