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argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 01:46 Edit Quote

Hello all.

Firstly, thanks a bunch for the consistent scores in terms of web stats.
The five top results at once for a "mauro colella@google.com" search are going straight to my heart : in no time at all,
I get to do interviews in the vein of : "who are you Mr. Colella? Just google me."

CV, business card prototype, they'll all pop within the five first results - I have no clue who to thank, so thank you -first-
and I'll figure the rest out as needs arise.

Now, I noticed I can obtain the opposite result quite easilly : no backlinks, no appearance in search results, nothing...
A truly secret page.

I've been wanting to blog for a while, for I have a life richer than I can express - within a day, I may change
countries, change girlfriends, change lifestyle, and language why not? I did, for months now.

I tried a photo blog, which didn't work out as expected - people have a hard time at letting photos of
them published *in the wild". And all this blog thing... I hate trends.
I hate standards "I've been to the grocery" kinds of painful blogs. I don't give a damn about
this or that guy's groceries, for the love of me, SPARE ME.

Yet I have to leave a trace for myself - what happens to me on the daily is just so intense it needs a trace.

I need to account for all that happens to me all the time - not out of a "look at me" kind of intent.
Out of a "look at the time I grew up through" kind of record.

So, I figured a title : "the book of shadow". A book of mystique and magic, for some things get no
reasonable - or standard - response.

A book of life.

And to keep it restricted... here's the experiment : the "beyondwonderland book of shadows" has no backlinks.
No metas. No ways to be indexed. It lives (empty at the moment as I figure out where to start).
It live within the beyondwonderland.com domain.

But the only way you'll access it is if you want it, and want it bad enough to GUESS it.

So, clues you'll get, a riddle you'll face, and as a reward, a 0 censorship place full of steamy facts of life
you'll access : the first part is not a world wide web thing. It is the name of the "thing" I like to quote as my "God".

The rest all happens "beyond wonderland". And that's it for the time being.

0 metas. 0 indexing. 0 censorship : just the blunt truth. Truth that flirts with magic.
Truth that is the life I chose to live - and the hell to regrets, as much as I've been through, every day as the sun rises,
I crave for more, crave for new, crave for learning.

Life, to me, is about passion : come share some, be my guest.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 05:38 Edit Quote

Ini, I think we've all learned enough about you over the years to know exactly what you're like without having to guess at your secret blog. I doubt there's anyone on this planet interested enough to bother guessing at your secret but if they were, they could just read the Asylum. Ya know, if you didn't throw a temper tantrum and insist that all your posts be deleted ...

Good to see you though.

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 08:29 Edit Quote

Jestah, I don't want you to refer to me as InI or pat me on the back as if you were a friend - mind you, you're not.

But it's good to see you Jest though ,)
(and it's funny you read the above, nove sized post, and apparently everything else I have posted around, just to comment
about a lack of interest - not funny, really. Not in the way you expected it, but I still have a smile on my face - so job done,
name earned)

(and we still are not friends).

(Edited by argo navis on 01-23-2008 08:36)

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 09:40 Edit Quote

Am I missing something ? because this threads sounds like "I've been to the grocery" to me.

Blaise
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 11:11 Edit Quote

Why not just buy a diary, and if anyone wants to see it they can track you down and steal it from you.

boring... next!



argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 11:17 Edit Quote

I'll take your question as a genuine "difficult to think outside the browsers world" kind of requirement - I hate making it obvious, I hate being
disappointed at your lack of finess here - I hate that, really, but let's go to facts :

- google page ranks works wonders.
- it works too well, see "google hacking" techniques that allow using simple queries to find restricted hardware or documents on the web.
- it works so well that pages I never expected to be indexed about me have been - see a www.google.com query for Mauro Colella :
top 5 results, me - specifically, business card and CV. But I can't find a consistent technical explanation as to why some things about OpenGL, Java, etc.. posted here do also land there.

There is photograph named Mauro Colella. War heroes. I am a tech guy - why do I "pagerank" better even in some dumb posts?
Why posts about OpenGL 4 Java rather than anything else I have done here? Got a clear cut answer? Not me.

And it is COMPLETELY in line with the general theme of webdesign.

- now, a blog without a link anywhere proposes the following technical interest : what the hell happens when there are no links, but just word of mouth?
Does google spider it? And how? Where does it get to be classified. Have to get "word of mouth" started though, and it would be less of a pain to both
you and me if you could do better than jumping to passive/agressive conclusions.
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That was the purpose of the above post - it's a shame you see grocery where I see fun and interesting answers, and it's a shame you do so for having skipped, again,
some reflexion time about the whole thing but if you need it obvious, there you go : your half empty bag of groceries is, in reality, half full (of useful informations for here
and for yourself).
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On a more personal note : you are invited. Not forced to demonstrate interest : I don't give a fuck wether you care to know.
People who *are* interested will come, and the connexion between this and google ranking "out of the blue" will be very informative to me,
and can be to you too.

On a more personal side :

I find it insulting you pretend to know, very inaccurate in addition.

I expect silly controversy based on questionnable humor from Jestah - his name and
purpose ARE well defined, he never did anything else here "over the years" and I do value some of his contributions,
but just that much - not that controversy is a bad thing per se, but the "bias/prejudice" and jumping to conclusions MAKE IT a bad thing,
which is not my problem as long as it remains relatively playful.

Now, Jestah :

Did you know I have worked in Israel one week after the end of war in 2006? Has anyone ever told you "I hope I will be alive tomorrow" and it meant something?
Has a soldier girl ever pointed a gun to you during an interview?
Did you know I have visited 12 countries within a year for different reasons and assignments, and lived many other situations of this kind?

Do you still feel you can pretend you know me? And do you see how insulting it can be to be the target of a prejudice, let alone the "pat on the back"
because really - my friends are people worthy of my respect, and it is something you earn - prejudices lose you brownies points.

Cheers, have more questions, please deliver.

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 11:18 Edit Quote

It seems strange to me that one should leave under less-than-pleasant circumstances in one guise, return in another guise, then attempt to replicate those circumstances in such a manner as to slight or alienate your fellow forum members. There's a case for forced medication here somewhere, methinks.

Report for shock therapy at once, Mr. Navis!

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 11:40 Edit Quote

Nah, clarify and READ : where and who have you seen me try to slight or alienate, Mr Hawk?

1) Refusing the name InI is my right, I notified Jestah - same for friendship.
2) I have clear points, that I made obvious at repeated demands, see post above.

All in all, please pay me the courtesy of falling in the "prejudice" trap like the two posters above :
please be smarter than lending me intents or a hidden Agenda.

Or make a point and show me where and who I am trying to alienate?

(Edited by argo navis on 01-23-2008 11:42)

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 16:19 Edit Quote

Argo - I have to ask this... does the name "Shadowprophet" mean anything to you?

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 16:38 Edit Quote

(sigh) as much as a question is no answer...
(say I promised to TP to lower my post count for a few days. Oh well, plans, promises, and then life).

No, it does not - at all - educated guess based on the fact you're a gamer : some bloke in Warcraft?

You will find me on the web under my real name, or on this forum as _Mauro, InI, or argo navis.
You will find me in most places as argo navis these days.
You may find some occurences of me as "Emperor Bigus Di*us", as a reference to the "Monthy Python's life of Brian" - in some
contexts (beta user for non commercial apps, etc.).

I used to be part, although I should not disclose it - of aikarele. That's on the demo scene side of things.
The prod I contributed still holds the 3rd place in "all times best java 64k intros" on www.pouet.net
...............................................
Now really, as the thread is living, and I am asked questions :
1) then attempt to replicate those circumstances in such a manner as to slight or alienate your fellow forum members.

What the hell do you mean? Who am I trying to slight - according to you - and how and where do you perceive that?
It is clearly erroneous - not only from my perspective : from the resurrected 20 liners, my wip on some flash integration,
some attempts at helping and some valid points in the philo forum.

It is erroneous even if you look at my above comments : Jestah takes liberties, fair enough,
I take equivalent liberties, fair enough, have you seen any bite or hurt? Flames or insults?

Is it a "feeling" or can you show me what you mean? I see myself trying to actively bring some things,
the things that are funny or interesting to me : I see myself adressing agressions early on to avoid having them turn into a habit.

2) Who's that Shadow prophet guy? And what is the link between him and me to you?

I am honest : if I meant "go love yourself" I'd tell you no more, no less, what you see -is- what you get
so this "hidden agenda paranoia" is a pain in the ass - as much as I try to understand you.

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 16:52 Edit Quote

I don't play Warcraft.

EDIT: Hang on - are you saying you don't like shock therapy?

(Edited by White Hawk on 01-23-2008 16:56)

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 16:53 Edit Quote

But I can see you do cheat : where are the answers to my questions?-)

EDIT : love it. Am spamming a lot to get SOME - I'd trade black pills for a few minutes.
*hands a black pill to White Hawk*

EDIT 2 : nevermind answering, just "got" that the answer lies in the question ,) Yes, such a "hidden agenda"
would be ridiculous of anyone, and staying in line with the past would be as well.

..So can I get the shock session or what?

(Edited by argo navis on 01-23-2008 17:07)

Blaise
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 18:29 Edit Quote

Paging Master Suho!

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 18:38 Edit Quote

The best I can do is a pair of nylon socks and a shag-pile carpet... *shuffleshuffleshuffle* (run from the finger of static doom!!)

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 19:08 Edit Quote

Blaise: let me help

(Edited by poi on 01-23-2008 20:39)

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 19:30 Edit Quote
quote:

argo navis said:

Jestah, I don't want you to refer to me as InI or pat me on the back as if you were a friend - mind you, you're not.But it's good to see you Jest though ,)(and it's funny you read the above, nove sized post, and apparently everything else I have posted around, just to commentabout a lack of interest - not funny, really. Not in the way you expected it, but I still have a smile on my face - so job done,name earned)(and we still are not friends).(Edited by argo navis on 01-23-2008 08:36)



Well Ini, in all fairness you throw so many temper tantrums, leave the Asylum so often, change your user name so frequently I didn't realize it was you at first.

quote:

argo navis said:

Do you still feel you can pretend you know me? And do you see how insulting it can be to be the target of a prejudice, let alone the "pat on the back"
because really - my friends are people worthy of my respect, and it is something you earn - prejudices lose you brownies points.



Of course I know you Ini.

- I know you well enough to know your being held at gun point story is a bunch of BS to make yourself seem important.
- I know you well enough to know in another few months you'll bother enough people at the Asylum where you will post your farewells claiming to never return again.
- I know you well enough to know a few months after that you'll be back with another user name, claiming to have found religion and have changed.
- Heck, I also know well enough to know you'll be leaving shortly after that as well.

It's too bad you demanded all of your posts be deleted. It would have been great if all of these world leaders who Google your name saw your tantrums ...

mas
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 19:43 Edit Quote

please allow me to get one thing straight:

quote:
And do you see how insulting it can be to be the target of a prejudice,


InI, you know what the word prejudice means, right? you are NOT - i repeat - you are N O T ! the target of any prejudices here. the attitude jestah and other inmates maintain against you is based on previous happenings.(remember that you threatened to destroy the asylum, called everyone a moron and so on...) i dont see anyone here who judges you in advance. this is what a prejudice would be, and this is clearly not the case.

jive
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greenville, SC, USA
Insane since: Jan 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 20:35 Edit Quote

...you actually have time to write posts this long?

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Norway
Insane since: Jun 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 20:47 Edit Quote

Blaise said:

quote:
Why not just buy a diary, and if anyone wants to see it they can track you down and steal it from you.

Is it what you had in mind ?





Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 22:48 Edit Quote
quote:

poi said:

Is it what you had in mind ?



I bought my first moleskin for very similar purposes. Except I never wear hats.

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 23:00 Edit Quote

Jestah : this is exactly what prejudice is about - assuming the present and future based on the past and that is why the legal notion
of prescription exists - assuming someone is now who someone was then is, apparently, as much as you can do - thank you for
the emotions about me, but no thanks.

I was perfectly right at my expectations unfortunately - this is exactly the line between insults for free based on nothing current,
exageration, a loss of calm spectacular - I'd pitty you, but for the sake of not feeding the flaming YOU brought to this thread,
you just get my ignore list - hopefully, with time, you'll stop your funky dance, until then enjoy it as much as you feel like.

Oh, and the bit about "me seeking attention" : I see one person dancing here, which is you, one person
saying "good to see you around" to then get emotional and agressive, you, all this within two posts - we do see in others flaws we own ourselves,
psychology calls it "projection" - me? I hold my line, but nobody, really, forces you to read a single word from me -
do not feel obliged.

Mas gets a bit more indulgence for the time being, due to the excuse of age and immaturity - but I won't adress your points
for I feel no guilt - an apology I made, and that is enough : again, you are free to accept it, or avoid me altogether.

I count on you to be clever enough to step back, breathe, re-read, breathe, will you amaze me with cleverness?
Will I rank you "too Jestah like to be worthy of a single word from me"?

That is entirely up to you, but war I decline, flames I turn my back to.
...
To poi, Hawk, or Blaise, who can challenge and do it with the fun factor, I hand my spare of black pills
and my continued respect ,)

Cheers, my experiment is on, and I praise my enemies for their weakness is a beautiful compliment -
but one I won't adress directly any other time.

mas
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-23-2008 23:50 Edit Quote
quote:
Mas gets a bit more indulgence for the time being, due to the excuse of age and immaturity


LMAO
...
...
...
sorry. *walks back into his cell, trying to turn 22*

(Edited by mas on 01-24-2008 00:18)

mas
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 00:04 Edit Quote

(by the way, my post was not about offending you, or accepting your excuse. i'm not blind, and i have not forgotten about the positive contributions you have brought to this place. all i tried was explaining to you why certain people maintain something you call prejudice against you. looks like i've failed. maybe i'm just too young and callow to understand what the problem is. maybe i should cancel my studies about molecular biology and should matriculate argonavisology - sciences of applied wisdom and bullshit. )

(Edited by mas on 01-24-2008 00:05)

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 05:37 Edit Quote

What about you focus on the science called "a dictionary" and look up the formal definition of a prejudice? ;D

It should be something like :
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>> and other inmates maintain against you
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Emphasis on the word "maintain" - you got the strict definition of a prejudice here.
All it takes for that "science of dictionary" are a couple of neurons and fingers to turn the pages, you don't need the extra baggage
- but Maz Letov on the CV - you're not hired yet ,)

Now, try to observe something for yourself - without connecting argo navis and InI, our *friend* Jestah didn't recognize me.

Tying the two personalities, willingly ignoring my request of separating them - like you did - what does he create?
Tension - because he mixes up distinct things and fosters such a confusion around him.
You want that tension? I don't.

It's illusionary in addition - I am not willing to bother him, nor you since 6-7 months.

Some background in biology should help you connect this kind of behavior to mnesic traces and other forms of persistance - it's like
KNOWING it puts him in defense mode automatically - while not knowing it didn't reach him or strike him in any way.

Out of the blue, he focuses on the negative aspect he brings back from his memories - yes this is natural.

But I've been around for months : compare this to the perception above, and you'll see he sees me in a light
that is biased, and that if I give in to the time wasting struggle, I just fuel the tension and help him grow mountains
out of molehills. Instead of helping him grow out of spontaneous agressions.

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The only constructive thing for me to do with this all is :
>> i have not forgotten about the positive contributions you have brought to this place.

Put the struggle aside, and focus on the good consistently.

(To phrase it your elegant way "let's not struggle with pigs in shit, I'd get dirty, and they would enjoy it"
- Wow! I can do mas humor too - at least the image is explicit, wasting time in flames, Jesus)

If putting the struggle aside requires a 100% "you don't like it? Feel free to get out" attitude, then so be it
- just that, nothing more - there is much more fun to be made out of this thread, and out of life indeed.
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[ In the meantime in my cell - back from the shock session ]
Muhuhahaha - this google/secret/blog thing may turn into something more useful than what
the guys at Arkham think ,)

...and since some dataflow has been started - the more they'd want to flame, the more they'd fuel this flow.

So, my science of bullshit, called software engineering (the one used in all my positive code contributions),
will obtain results from the experiment within a couple of weeks - and I will know for certain if links,
then metas, etc.. are core in the pagerank algorithms. WHICH WILL SERVE MY PLOT TO CONQUER
THE WORLD!!!!!

Er, no. My plot to create drama.

Uh, NO WAY! My plot to drag so much attention to me that I can steal the White House keys discreetly
while everybody is hypnotized by my blog. Yeah, that's the one...



Screw that. And screw you baby boy too!

White Hawk
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: zero divided.
Insane since: May 2004

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 10:30 Edit Quote

For the record, Argo Navini, you've more than adequately answered the questions you posed to me yesterday.

Why do you persist in (attempting) such a contrived manner of communication? You claim to speak plainly, but patently do not.

As for prejudice - perhaps you should research its definition; making an assumption based upon empirical evidence and direct relevant experience of the subject is not prejudice. The manner in which this exchange has unfolded leads only to the conclusion that previous assumptions bear scrutiny rather well.

I am dismayed that you have managed to take such offence at the posts of your fellow inmates, as I've found them all rather amusing; the advantage of course, is that I have a sense of humour. I'm perfectly happy to laugh at myself too, by the way, and am more than happy to accept another's judgement, as I am not defined by them; neither are you! (EDIT: though, as is now obvious, I don't suffer fools gladly)

Please, don't take yourself so seriously, and do not take to heart the relatively good-humoured ribbing of your fellow inmates - you're at risk of expressing the very characteristics with which you are charged.

Some good advice, if you are inclined to accept it, is that the best way to dispel preconceptions (however founded) is not to flatly and persistently deny them in open argument, but to conduct oneself in a manner contradictory to those assumptions. The best way to be a better person is simply to be a better person. Loudly proclaiming oneself such is the quickest way to dipel any illusion that such is the case.

quote:
Impressive. Most impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.


(Hint - Darth Vader was lying)

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(Edited by White Hawk on 01-24-2008 10:48)

Tyberius Prime
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 11:31 Edit Quote

Guys keep it down - attention seems to be his craving.

Argo, keep it short. I will lock the next thread that contains a non technical post from you that spans more than one page.



so long,

->Tyberius Prime

mas
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 12:32 Edit Quote

okay, this is my last post is in this thread. i will now once again try to explain to argo navis what the word "prejudice" is all about. maybe it means something different to us here in austria, but since white hawk also seems to share my opinion i dont think that this is the case.

Person A sees a man with a skinhead on the street. Person A immediately claims skinhead is a racist, without knowing him or having ever talked to him. <-- Prejudice

Person B sees a man insulting and beating black people. Person B talks to him, getting to know that this man hates everyone who is not white. Person B judges, calling this man a racist.

didcha get me now?
honestly, i dunno why the hell you struggle so much against connecting argo navis and ini. you are ONE AND THE SAME HUMAN PERSON! you, ini, argo navis, _mauro are ONE! nicknames are just an arrangement of letters. you would be the man in example B wearing different clothes. no one here in the entire asylum CARES about how you call yourself. believe me. please. we do not judge about ARGO NAVIS, we judge about mauro colella. (sorry if i spelled it wrong)
okay, thats it. i hope you have now understood what the word prejudice means to me. i hope you dont feel offended again. if so, feel free to flame. i wont waste my time with this any longer.


The Space Between Us | My Blog: lukas.grumet.at

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 12:47 Edit Quote

@Tyberius : this simply is my style of expression - why do you want to shut it down? Don't you have yourself
a more clever way to identify an intent and handle it? (no flame here - question)
I do NOT take myself "so seriously", I like verb.
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@White Hawk - two quotes from me (you seem to read me JUST the way you like it) :
>> Uh, NO WAY! My plot to drag so much attention to me that I can steal the White House keys discreetly
while everybody is hypnotized by my blog. Yeah, that's the one...

<--- this is called IRONY and this is called laughing at myself.

>> To poi, Hawk, or Blaise, who can challenge and do it with the fun factor, I hand my spare of black pills
and my continued respect ,)

<--- this SHOULD BE self explanatory.
What are you saying about "humor" I am NOT lashing out at YOU - or at anyone else for that matter.

I do find the rest funny - just happen to find both Jestah and mass so GROSS it hurts,
it does not make me laugh.

I also find the way TP approaches this situation GROSS (ridiculously gross, what the hell is
"one page" long?) - it's a friggin' forum for fuck's sake,
and that guy cannot make a difference between enthusiasm and someone seeking for attention?

You surely can do better than this on YOUR END of receiving humor.

Short enough to your sterilizing taste? Once upon a time this place was about creativity,
I find the above way to play google ranking FUN and I do find the rest fun except for comments
of mas and Jestah that, in spite of the CV, are both childish and great humor...

In the countryside - cows would love it here in Switzerland.

Nah cowboys, I *am* not changing anything except my post count in the Ozones, for you to cool down -
but do me a favor - since my intent is NOT your perception, what about you try to open up to another
perspective and imagine the same words... with a SMILE??

(at the very least it's a huge misunderstanding fueled by a preconception that I am being serious
150% of everything I typed in this thread, but there are gazillion ways it could be handled in mutual respect -
if you paid me the basic courtesy of reading what I MEAN or helping me adjust my style
for you to understand - that's all it takes, really).

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 12:52 Edit Quote

Aw shit, I post, he posts, ok : quickie and last one for me too -

Person C sees a man insulting and beating black people 7 YEARS AGO. Person C talks to him, getting to assume that this man hates everyone who is not white. Person C judges, calling this man a racist. Times pass, person C sees the same man, man is holding a charity for black people.

Percon C doesn't adjust and still holds the guy for a racist, so every borderline usage of humor is perceived as racist.

That's me here and now, and it's not person B - so it's not a judgement that applies,
but it's NORMAL and HUMAN for me to feel on the defensive when insulted or threatened to be shut down.

I think it's just a matter of fine tuning - and I would appreciate a flameless version of the resolution
of this.

EDIT : Hence the fact I'll form my intent differently in a more discreet thread - I do care to receive
if you care to deliver it in a non agressive way. Deal? Off to the Mad Sci forum..

(Edited by argo navis on 01-24-2008 13:16)

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 14:37 Edit Quote

(in the current perspective, this whole thread seems so ridiculous I just want to scramble it upside
down and have a good laughter).

So, pizza anyone? And group hug! A group hug with straightjackets seems *appropriate* to celebrate
my future domination of the world

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 16:13 Edit Quote

I truly believe this thread has run its course, and that there is nothing positive that can be wrenched out of it.

And my sig applies especially well here.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles


(Edited by WebShaman on 01-24-2008 16:14)

argo navis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Switzerland
Insane since: Jul 2007

IP logged posted posted 01-24-2008 16:41 Edit Quote
quote:

that there is nothing positive that can be wrenched out of it.



Some truths are good if said once ,) And this goes both ways - dispose as needed, but you won't dispose ME - can you deal with
the request I posted in the Mad Sci area?



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