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Wow - the last time I lurked around the PhiloSilly forum, I think this exact conversation was going on in several threads... I suspect Gilbert of instigating at least one of them! :D Remember that religious traditions are man-made creations - regardless of the truth of the spiritual energy behind them. In years of personal study in a variety of religious traditions, I have learned that most religions teach basically the same things with different dogmas. The archetypes are the same, whatever names are given. Each new version builds on what has gone before. The Old Testament mentions Satan, which is an old Hebrew word that means simply "Adversary". Lucifer is technically a different individual. The two have merged as history has progressed (Lucifer became "The Adversary"). But if you believe that God made the world, he also made the angels and is thus responsible for creating his own "Adversary." He would be aware that in order to fully appreciate what is good, one must also know evil. The apocryphal texts and the old gnostic writings are fascinating to read and we could argue all day about which interpretation of events is "correct." Remember the Bible as it is today is a construct of men for men designed to convey a specific message. The books left out were left out intentionally because they did not convey the appropriate message. Several Church councils were responsible for editing "God's Word." Constantine recognized that Christianity was a growing religion and as a competent governor, he took full advantage of the fact. In addition to the Council of Nicea, Constantine is responsible for blending elements of Mithraism and Sun Worship with the original Christian beliefs. And on top of it all, he was a momma's boy and his momma was a Christian. He had a vested interest in keeping the old Queen Helena happy. Religion has always been a tool of government used to control the morals and behaviors of the masses. Somewhere in this forum is a great conversation about Nicea wherein I went out on the web and found tons of informative links... someone with more time can seek it out if you're interested. In the end, it is important that you believe in something greater than yourself - in order to have something to aspire towards and which reminds you how very small we all are. It is important that you treat yourself and others with love and respect. Beyond that - the exact methods you use to convey your respect to your spiritual higher power is entirely up to you and there is no one way to go about it. [img]http://www.annbeckett.com/sigs/images/rotator_fix.php[/img] [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/2186]Cell Sweet Cell[/url]
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