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argo_navis
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IP logged posted posted 06-27-2011 15:16 Edit Quote

Why not? The book commented by Carl Jung I mentioned in another thread is "The Secret of the Golden Flower". Written - allegedly - by eight immortals who are prominent figures of Daoism (or Taoism), it explains, albeit allegorically, the method for immortality.

Another book confirms this : controversial because much more recent, "The Emerald Tablets", the Doreal rendition, are attributed to Hermes / Thoth and exist in at least three versions.

This is, usually, a reserved teaching, but the time has come for everyone to speak out boldly.

To control one's aging process :
- Maintain relatively decent sleep, it factors in.
- Maintain a proper sexuality : intentions-wise, and some practices are recommended to avoid "hurting" the etheric body (they pertain to avoidance of bodily fluids loss, and of sodomy).
- Cleanse your chakras, see Yoga techniques for that (or many others), regularly.
- Practice compassion. Learn to embrace ANY difference as an experience.
- For two hours a day, meditate in opposite directions, one hour with your head North, one hour with your head South.

The final step reverts the main etheric currents within the etheric system, in such a way as to restore a property I'd call "analogous to elasticity for a spring". The etheric body, or spirit, loses its ability to channel chi to the physical body over time and imbalances.

This last practice returns it to the balance that all other recommendations preserve. Thus, pursued for some time, it effectively causes aging to revert visibly; the effect is proportional to how much time you've spent aging so far. But 2 weeks of this appear to make up for 2-3 years of a human lifespan.

I believe no physical technology will come close to this result. For reasons I determined through experience. I suggest you make your own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_of_the_Golden_Flower

I give this here like I do elsewhere because - well, look at the trends around you. This is where we are going, and in this future, past the twilight, your well-being, the welfare of all, is everybody's responsibility. Quite obviously.

But I am the gatekeeper. The one whose name is known to only he himself.

(Edited by argo_navis on 06-27-2011 15:17)

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 10:57 Edit Quote

I'm sorry AN, but this will not replace Science and Technology.

We are beginning to understand the physics behind the aging process. It is only a matter of time before we crack it.

So what is more efficient, a method that only an extremely small few can follow successfully (that you pointed out), or one that can be applied to anyone?

Also, I have a question for you - why are animals not practicing yoga? Why can't they "transcend"? They have been here much longer than we have. One would expect them to have long ago cracked the aging thing with a similar method.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

argo_navis
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IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 12:08 Edit Quote

Actually, let's look at the second one first : Dolphins do. Lookup dolphinotherapy, they practice some form of remote (short distance) healing which is dramatically effective (to the point it has affected their population because of its success).

In this case, the unusual electromagnetic "scans and transfers" they perform are measurable, have been studied. I should dig up details, but the evidence exists, and is rigorously established.

They also practice belly rubbing, akin, to a degree, to some chakra cleansing techniques. It is by them a very frequent ritual. Other species present unusual capabilities or practices, such as the suspected (elaborate beyond the human's ear frequency), language of wolves. Wolves speak beautifully.

As for replacement : you are right in regard to some aspects, such as the everlasting need for surgery. Because emergency and etheric healing don't mix.

But imagine the possibilities if we blend approaches. A lot more, at little costs, can be achieved than what we presently realize using such techniques. To me it's an infinite field of research, with a big question mark and some hints of glory as its boundaries.

Infinite energy that is latent "matter" to be harvested anywhere : crystals do store electromagnetic signals under some circumstances.

About aging control, I believe - because I am an example of someone who came from a place of turmoil, to one of being there for others on a deeper level - I believe it is really accessible to all.

I see you, us, all living beings today, as wonderful entities which extend - whichever way you choose to look at it - far beyond envelopes. Be it the mind, the spirit, whichever name you would give to this "mechanism", the sole existence of "interpersonal intuition" says we are more than sums of parts, and more than meets the eyes.

I believe in 'all'. As perfect "thermodynamic miracles".

...
Shamans meet biologists http://deoxy.org/shamansci.htm
Dolphins, mesmerizing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVgXJ55G6Y

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 13:25 Edit Quote

Interesting that you have left out whales.

Why?

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

binary
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 14:48 Edit Quote

Thanks Argo......

Aging is as a result of time….Time is as a result of the brains linear perception……. therefore changing ur trance on time results to no aging….but then ur neighbors will start questioning
Time = Ti Me = Tie Me
Physical = Phi Cycle = fractality
Transcendng is simply ending a trance....

There is more

~Sig coming soon~

argo_navis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 15:04 Edit Quote

Spiral out and keep going brother, time like the rest circles round, spirals up or down,
anchored by the lessons of life, and on its way back into the singularity,
loses its texture as an illusion indeed.


Thank you Asylum.

argo_navis
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IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 15:13 Edit Quote

Oh, WebShaman. Essentially a matter of briefness of posts and personal kinship. Do you suspect or sense another reason I wouldn't perceive? It would be interesting if that's the case.

The three marine mammal species matter a lot.

Whales and Orcas as well I mean, very similar, but dolphins have left a deep imprint in me. I have been very active about causes relevant to them, and they have an ambiguous history as the other intelligent species on the planet. They do have an intelligence comparable to ours, but look at their societies.

And their radiance.

(Edited by argo_navis on 06-28-2011 15:13)

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 19:15 Edit Quote

Interesting.

And what about Sperm Whales?

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

argo_navis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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IP logged posted posted 06-28-2011 19:34 Edit Quote

And the fact it has the largest brain of all mammals? Your original question being about meditation, I didn't touch on singing animals for no reason. A widely spread chakra cleansing
technique, one I will illustrate with Tina Turner's help in a second, is chanting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOsr_ZOi-Jo

Which beautifully illustrates the benefits of daily, simple practice on both longevity and vitality.
Na-mo...

Oh, and I almost forgot the painting elephant. He is next, this time with a smaller brain,
and great talent.

argo_navis
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IP logged posted posted 06-29-2011 10:57 Edit Quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FGEJKQzaMA
http://vimeo.com/3437997

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_intelligence#Elephant_altruism

quote:
The elephant's brain is similar to that of humans in terms of structure and complexity - such as the elephant's cortex having as many neurons as a human brain, suggesting convergent evolution.

Elephants exhibit a wide variety of behaviors, including those associated with grief, learning, allomothering, mimicry, art, play, a sense of humor, altruism, use of tools, compassion, cooperation, self-awareness, memory and possibly language. All point to a highly intelligent species that are thought to be equal with cetaceans and primates.



And that'll make for a whole bunch of intelligent species, some of which have some practices
similar to those of humans (including meditation-like feats), that these good ol' pink monkeys
we are tend to eat or otherwise process.

D'oh.

All these species have elaborate societies that seem to provide them with great joy, and this
might represent a possible alley for the survival of our own species. As for chemically controlled
aging, I cannot prove this, but I suspect that the "let's age" trigger will not be found
as a chemical component.

Just like the Higgs Boson. For those are the places where control measures imparted to us
by "the Universe" force introspection - less there would be no safeguard to the maintenance
of that thermodynamic principle, which keeps the Universe going : life must counterbalance
the action of entropy.

quote:

This, my children, your purpose in being;
transmutation of darkness to light.

From the Secret of Secrets, Emerald Tablet XV, attr. Thoth the Atlantean



http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

(Edited by argo_navis on 06-29-2011 11:22)

binary
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

IP logged posted posted 06-29-2011 16:19 Edit Quote

.....Me=We....Mind=Wind.....

~Sig coming soon~

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 06-29-2011 22:57 Edit Quote

Do you mean wind, as in wind a clock, or do you mean wind, as in what blows?

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

argo_navis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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IP logged posted posted 06-30-2011 03:55 Edit Quote

Shamans. Always a fartbeat away.

Let's flip the script and look at it from the perspective of physics, shall we? At reality, not winds from the South I mean.

binary
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

IP logged posted posted 06-30-2011 07:56 Edit Quote

WS: ....mean=name....

~Sig coming soon~

WebShaman
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: The Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

IP logged posted posted 06-30-2011 23:54 Edit Quote

Hehe...that was pretty good!

binary = bi nary = two naries do not make a yeah.

Very.



WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

binary
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

IP logged posted posted 07-01-2011 08:04 Edit Quote

^

WebShaman = WedShaman = VVedShaman= XShaman = deWShaman = biShaman =two Shamans

~Sig coming soon~



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