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Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 00:40

Heh, you won't believe what I just found a link to in my Sound and Music for Multimedia class tutorial at University...

Cut'n'paste:

quote:
8. In the HTML document, use the <OBJECT> element to embed each audio file. Follow the tutorial at http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=573&sortby=rating.



I saw it and though, no way, that's too cool. I'm paying these people shit loads of money to point me here... Hang on, there's a flaw in here somwehere....



Though it worth sharing.



[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 03-05-2003).]

Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: *land
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 03-05-2003 01:22

hah.
very cool indeed.

I guess you should start sendin' money to Emps instead. =)

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 03-05-2003 06:17

This confirms my theory that the Asylum FAQ is the modern-day Library of Alexandria. Just keep those torches away from the server...

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 07:29

And Master Suho...charged as he is...one spark, and *Bam!*...


WebShaman

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 09:24

well, Dracuis, it's time to give something back! ,

I for one would appreciate a quick explanation of the 'sig hosting only from specific domains' .htaccess... I had to search through the forums yesterday (would have done it myself, but any intellectual property I greate from nine till six is the company's own ;-). ).

So long,
TP

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 14:23

Give something back?... Me?... I've added things to the faq before.

Anyways, I wasn't overly surprised to find a link to the asylum in that class. The Lecturer/Tutor is way cool. He's a beatnik muso with a head for programming and he's big on web standards. Makes for quite an interesting and wakky mix.

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 15:52

just curious, but did you ask him how he found the link to the Wiki?



Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

kuckus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin (almost)
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 16:40

I guess he found it through Google, as it's the number 1 result for "embed quicktime movie" (which means that it's ranked higher than Apple.com even!) - cool

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 03-05-2003 17:17

Dracusis: Thats great (fancy scanning the relevant bit of the page??) - you can tell him that the neater link is:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/573/

I've updated the notes in the FAQ but that is great we were ranking really high with that FAQ then I realised I had it down as Quick Time when it should have been Quicktime

I though we'd do OK with a quick tweak but bumping Apple off the top spot

So there is a message to people - if there is rock solid advice floating around (broad or specific) drop it into the FAQ not only will we find it useful but you can reach a wider audience by helping to contribute to this wider resource (I have had less time to devote to all things FAQ recently and if it is going to continue to grow and thrive then it needs your input).

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Emps

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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-05-2003 17:44

I would have mentioned that you are a major contributor to that site, then tell the professor about the glories of joining the forum. Maybe you will get to teach him something as he wanders the halls.


Me

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 03-06-2003 02:39

Did you by any chance mention to him that http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/573 is shorter?

or did you (as I would've done) try to draw "The Official FAQ Pointer Finger(tm)" on the paper?


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 03-06-2003 04:33

And this (password protected) URL has appeared in the server logs today:
http://student.ci.qut.edu.au/units/music/KMB626/Tut3.html

Any connection?

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-06-2003 04:39

Me and someone else (I can't remember who) cameup with the idea a while ago that we may have someone on the board who's secretly an employee of google...and they keep bumping asylum FAQ links up the list...it's strange I know, but possible. I for one who like to say a big thank you if that's the case.

counterfeitbacon
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 03-06-2003 05:07

I tried grabbing the site with HTTtrack. But it didn't work.

I have an old book ('96) on cracking web encryption. Don't know if it applies to this, or if this is new encryption technology, but I'll give it a shot.

[This message has been edited by counterfeitbacon (edited 03-06-2003).]

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 03-06-2003 10:36

Whoa there, cowboy. I don't think Emps was asking anybody to crack the site... so, please, don't "give it a shot."

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 03-06-2003 12:38

Skaarjj: LOL - you underestimate the amount of effort and planning TP and I put into making sure search engines love the FAQ (and it isn't just Google - Yahoo, MSN and AOL also love it we just targetted Google specifically). Oh and we sold our souls to the Devil

cfb: Stop dicking around - its neither big or clever.

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Emps

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Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 03-06-2003 17:11

Yup, student.ci.qut.edu.au is the University's comm design server. Here's a cut'n'paste from that page, just incase you were wondering:

quote:
Tutorial tasks -Week 1.
Tutorial: Basic HTML Elements for embedding sound
This is designed for those of you with little web design experience, new to using HTML (Hypertext Markup Language) directly (ie without letting Dreamweaver or Frontpage generate it for you).

It's always a good idea to check on your fundamentals (especially as the standards change frequently), so I recommend you try this no matter what your experience. But if you're finding it all too easy, you may like to skip to the Sound Recording section.

By the end of the tutorial, you should aim to have embedded sounds working in an HTML document. The first assessment will be based on using this approach (we'll leave Flash and other embedded technologies until later in the unit).

1. Open up Dreamweaver

2. Click on the new document button, and give the page a name. Save it in a location you can remember.

3. Click on the <> button (top left) to enter code view

4. After the <body> tag, start typing some text.

5. Save the page (use the extension "html"), then open up a web browser. Open the page.

Now go to the HTML tutorial at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/ and work through the first tutorial. If you're going well or it's too easy, try the other two tutorials (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html and http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style.html). Frequently test your code by saving it and opening it in a web browser. (W3, the World Wide Web Consortium, is the organisation which manages the development and standards for HTML).

If you have are very comfortable with HTML, but less experience with sound recording, you should move on to the following exercise to get some experience with wave editing.


Sound Recording
If you are experienced with sound recording and editing, you might like to skip this and get straight onto embedding some sounds. To do this, download some sound effects from the web (search www.google.com or your favourite search engine for "sound fx").

1. Open up MicroLogic (click the Apple symbol to see the menu for opening programs).

Record some sounds using the inbuilt microphone on the top right of the computer monitor. If you need assistance, use the MicroLogic help or the following (bearing in mind that it refers to the full version of Logic). You can also ask me of course.

Recoring Sound in Logic Audio Platinum

(NB. During the rest of this course we will be using the full version of Logic with an input preamp device called MBox, but the equipment is not yet ready).

2. Open up the Sample Edit window to view your recording as a wave. You can zoom in using the two buttons at the top right of the window. To maximise the volume without clipping, select the whole waveform and select Functions/Normalise. Now see how the amplitude has changed.

3. Try deleting the unneeded sections of the waveform - get it down to one word, for example.

5. Save the recordings in a new folder called "KMB626Tut1".

6. Make a new HTML page in the same folder (use Dreamweaver)

7. Find some pictures on the internet (use http://www.google.com/imghp) and save them (control-click/save image as...) in the same folder.

8. In the HTML document, use the <OBJECT> element to embed each audio file. Follow the tutorial at http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=573&sortby=rating.

5. Now insert the images with <IMG> element (eg <IMG SRC="bee.jpg" ALT="Bee"> (NB. There is no closing tag for IMG).

6. Surround each <IMG> element with <A> tags, eg:

<A HREF="buzz.aiff"><IMG SRC="bee.jpg" ALT="Click to hear the bee"></a>

7. Try using events and Javascript to trigger the sounds. This is the code from the lecture - use it as a guide. You may need to use different settings for Quicktime or Netscape (use the OLT links to their standards if necessary). Before using the events and Javascript, test that the sounds work by using <a href="frog.wav"><img src="frog.jpg"></a>.

<HTML>

<HEAD>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript">

function play(clipname){

player.doStop();
player.setsource(clipname);
player.doplaypause();
}

</SCRIPT>

</HEAD>


<BODY>

<OBJECT NAME="player" TYPE="audio/basic">

<PARAM="hidden" VALUE="true">

</OBJECT>

<IMG SRC="frog.jpg" onmouseover="play('frog.wav')" ALT="frog">
<IMG SRC="dog.jpg" onmouseover="play('dog.wav')" ALT="dog">
<IMG SRC="cat.jpg" onmouseover="play('cat.wav')" ALT="cat">
<IMG SRC="kookaburra.jpg" onmouseover="play('kookaburra.wav')" ALT="kookaburra">
<IMG SRC="donkey.jpg" onmouseover="play('donkey.wav')" ALT="donkey">
<IMG SRC="duck.jpg" onmouseover="play('duck.wav')" ALT="duck">
<IMG SRC="laugh.jpg" onmouseover="play('laugh.wav')" ALT="laugh">

</BODY>

</HTML>



Pretty basic stuff really but technically this is a 1st year subject. I'm not doing an audio Major but I still have to take one audio subject and this one seemed quite nifty (and it didn't have any pre-requisite subjects either). Although while this part is quite basic the lectures have mostly been about acoustic theory as it applies to digital mediums which is really cool shit. The computer Lab I'm in for that class it really cool too. It's a room full of e-macs and each computer had a beefy synthesiser where the keyboard should be (the actual keyboard is under the desk...).

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