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Yannah
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posted posted 04-10-2003 03:12

I hate her, my friend's bugging me over email just because of her....her voice is so refusable.

Yannah
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posted posted 04-10-2003 03:41

come on guys...
what you think of my friend then?

Emperor
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posted posted 04-10-2003 03:58

I think your friend is welcome to their opinion.

I also suspect I'm indifferent to the situation.

I'm also wondering what you are looking for?

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Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
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posted posted 04-10-2003 04:02

Avril Lavigne is very pretty. And her studio has assigned her good songwriters, musicians, studio technicians, makeup and wardrobe artists, and marketing/publicity people. With all that machinery behind her, she's bound to be appealing, if not exactly groundbreaking. I mean, what do you want out of pop?

Yannah
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posted posted 04-10-2003 04:07

I want rock, pop things like that not punk.

abb
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posted posted 04-10-2003 04:19

I am actually not partial to Avril Lavigne, she doesn't appeal too much. I think it's because of the makeup If you ask me, it ruins the effect...

Ruski
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posted posted 04-10-2003 04:42

she is real pretty, but definaitly not my music LOL

well I think she can pretty much make big bucks for a studio...but well, to me her music is alrigh

Suho1004
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posted posted 04-10-2003 04:57

Who is Avril Lavigne? Does someone have a link for me?

[Edit: Yes, I realize I could go to Google, but for some reason I am crushed beneath an overwhelming laziness at this moment in time...]

[Edit: OK, I overcome the overwhelming laziness and checked out a site. Not my type of music. Not anything out of the ordinary in terms of appearance. I would have to say my reaction was one of extreme indifference.]

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Yannah
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posted posted 04-10-2003 05:35

her music is not for me too!
ah she's this Canadian singer who has a schreechy voice.

SPyX
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From: College Station, TX
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posted posted 04-10-2003 05:46

You have 430 posts?? Are you kidding me?

maninacan
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posted posted 04-10-2003 05:54

How in the world do you have 433 posts.
*off to find the topic you spammed 400 times*
*A search turned up less than 180 posts*
Damn the man. Someone screwed up.
Save the Empire.


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Ruski
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posted posted 04-10-2003 06:39

DAMN thats even more than me

WebShaman
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posted posted 04-10-2003 09:09

I don't.

*Grooves to Hendrix crosstown traffic*

Fig
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posted posted 04-10-2003 11:12

actually, the one thing that impressed me about her (avril, not yannah ) is that she does write her own music from what i understand. there's some diversity in her music too, a friend of mine had the cd and in listening to it there's some interesting ideas there. pop-ish? definitely. but i've certainly been forced to listen to worse...

chris


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fenja
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From: Norway
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posted posted 04-10-2003 13:39

I like Avril. I listen to her album quite often and I can relate to many of her songs. She has a nice voice too and she wears normal clothes and almost no makeup. She doesn't use her body to sell her music like so many other artists do. I think she's great.

Yannah, didn't you use a picture of Avril as a sig? Why do you hate her now?

synax
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posted posted 04-10-2003 13:46

I share Fig's sentiments. Not my brand of music, but I'm mostly indifferent about listening to it. There's much MUCH worse out there.

Emperor
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posted posted 04-10-2003 13:51

As fenja points out you did have an AL sig when you first came here ('What who me punk, no way!!') - in fact some us still secretly love that sig

Does she write all her own songs? Not really (it sounds much less punk/anti-establishment when dug into ):
www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,908612,00.html

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bodhi23
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posted posted 04-10-2003 14:12

I kind of like her album. Her music has some variety to it, and her choruses are kind of catchy... I wouldn't go so far as to say she's "punk", I remember what punk is... Pop is closer to what she's turning out. She's a kid still, and therefore entitled to some play with her clothes and make-up. But she has some talent. The question is: can she repeat her success without starting to repeat herself. That was the problem Fiona Apple had. Her second album sounded exactly like her first one.
It remains to be seen if Avril will have any longevity in her career...

Your friend, Yannah, is entitled to have her own opinions about her tastes in music (as has been stated above). Same as you are.

Bodhi - Cell 617

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Suho1004
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posted posted 04-10-2003 15:25

Ah, that was Avril Lavigne in Yannah's sig? Hmm...

bodhi23
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posted posted 04-10-2003 16:00

Her first sig was Pink, I thought.

Bodhi - Cell 617

Petskull
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posted posted 04-10-2003 16:28

hey! I liked that "heavy with mood" song..


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DL-44
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posted posted 04-10-2003 18:13

Do I like her? Not a bit.

My 8 year old daughter *loves* her, and I'm fine with that. The music is decent as far as relative musical ability is concerned, and the lyrical content is rather good as far as the general message she conveys.

And while that isn't something *I* need in music, it's certainly somthing I look for in what my 8 year old listens to.

As has been said, I have no interest, but there are *far* worse things out there these days...

{{edit - bodhi: no. pink came second }}



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Veneficuz
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posted posted 04-10-2003 20:07

I've only heard a couple of songs from her. It was ok, better than a lot of things, but far from good. Calling her music punk would be wrong imo, calling it pop with small elements of punk and rock would be closer to target imo. The lyrics (the ones I've heard) are pretty good as well, but there are other bands out there that write better lyrics.

A lot of the stuff she does also seem kind of forced, like she is trying to create an image that isn't really her...

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bodhi23
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posted posted 04-10-2003 22:35

Hey Petskull - that was on the first Fiona album. I'm fond of that track too. But the 2nd album? SUCKED!

Bodhi - Cell 617

Petskull
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posted posted 04-10-2003 22:41

yeah, I think that's the only song I like by Fiona Apple..


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Perfect Thunder
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posted posted 04-11-2003 00:24

This thread really just goes to prove that taste in music will always be subjective -- I really liked both Fiona Apple's albums, and I thought the second was slightly better than the first.

Suho1004
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posted posted 04-11-2003 01:22

Man, I am so out of touch with the music scene these days. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, of course...

DL-44
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posted posted 04-11-2003 01:55

I think it's a bit of a crime to mention Fiona Apple in an Avril Lavigne thread



Yannah
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posted posted 04-11-2003 03:50

I don't like her, yeah it's true that I used her image as my sig...(once) but there's words in it that could prove that I don't like her...I have her cd because of my sister...
She's 19(Avril), 3 years older than me, and yet she's co-writing her songs in an immature way...she's supposed to agree and disagree to whatever's good, not just agree to whatever could put her into the industry as a musician...and her lyrics aren't. so does this post make sense?

Petskull
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posted posted 04-11-2003 04:39

Yannah, spend a few weeks working in an ad agency, you'll get it..


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Yannah
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posted posted 04-11-2003 06:16

hahaha very funny PS.

Suho1004
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posted posted 04-11-2003 06:22

Hmm... I don't think that was supposed to be funny...

bodhi23
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posted posted 04-11-2003 14:07

These days, mainstream music is all about marketing. Anyone keep up with that American Idol? A prime example of the blatant commercialism of the music industry. Every now and then, you come across an artist who's managed to make it decently and still keep their soul. Ben Harper is one I can think of off the top of my head...

I'm not surprised that a young singer like Avril Lavigne is taking advantage of the behind the scenes machinery that's moved her closer to the top of the pop charts... In her position, wouldn't you? Money is money, right? That is, if you're not interested in keeping your soul...

edit - damn fingers again!
Bodhi - Cell 617

[This message has been edited by bodhi23 (edited 04-11-2003).]

ljd2001
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posted posted 04-11-2003 14:51

hi ya
i am new to the "ozone" and was lurking thru the topics and had to drop by to say something about avril.
i recently read an article about her in Rolling Stone - yes that Rolling Stone - and there was a point where David Bowie was brought up - she DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS!!!! Scary ain't it?
I mean I realize she is from the teeny bopper set but David Bowie?????
As for my feelings about her - I think she is a "pre-made" teen idol - like a gothic Britney. She too will fade like the boy bands and christina. that is if we are lucky.
When I really want to listen to some serious female tunes I go to Melissa Etheridge or Susan Tedeschi. Maybe Avril knows who they are - ya think?

thanx -for letting me ramble - i think i am going to like it here!

lisa

fenja
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posted posted 04-11-2003 15:29

I remember when Britney Spears was in Norway, she was asked if her relationship with Justin was like John Lennon and Yoko Ono. Britney said: "who???". Then the interviewer said: "Maybe like Paul McCartney and Linda then?". Britney: "I'm sorry. I'm still so young. I don't know who these people are."

LOL!

Suho1004
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posted posted 04-11-2003 15:34

ljd: From one rambler to another: Welcome to the funny farm. Hope you enjoy your stay.

krets
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posted posted 04-11-2003 16:26

Norah Jones.

Yup.

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aroma
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posted posted 04-11-2003 23:51

Avril L is a big sample of manufactured crap! She can't sing and i'm not just saying this, she sang live on British radio without the aid of a computer etc (bbc radio 1, live lounge) and she couldn't reach the high notes ( i would have said struggled to reach, but that is too kind) and sounded awful sorry kids little rebel Avril isn't what you think!

Did any1 else hear her sing live on radio 1?

Cheers Aroma

quisja
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posted posted 04-13-2003 11:33

Personally I think an "artiste" like Avril is more damaging than an American Idol (or Pop Idol as we have here in the UK). She is far less blatantly commercial, even though underneath she is doubtless as bad as any other. Therefore her commercial approach to what is, in my opinion, an art form of sorts is doubly wrong. I wrote an rant about her, among other things, on my site a while back: http://quis.coolfreepage.com/?p=articles/society

Sanzen
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posted posted 04-13-2003 19:18

is homicide an option?

\m/ hardcore for life.

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