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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-13-2003 19:33

I've always been confused by this notion that a band/singer/whatever is somehow wrong if they do what sells.

I mean...they call it show business for a reason people.

There is no artist that has released an album on a major label without being deemed commercially viable. By the very nature of the recording industry, anyone who gets an album out is a 'sellout'.

as tool so poignantly stated - "I sold out long before you ever even heard my name, I sold my soul to make a record, dipshit"

So, is 'little rebel Avril' what she appears to be? In my eyes, yes, as I never thought she was anything more than people here have been trying to 'reveal' her as... =)



Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 04-13-2003 20:19

I can't stand Avril, I don't understand why she attempts to portray punk music. Its no more punk then NSYNC and BSB.

Jestah

Sanzen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Raleigh, NC
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 04-13-2003 20:56

i see your point of view DL-44... but i will share with you my ... musician's... point of view.

Music... isn't meant to be a pre fabricated, mindless, all-about-the-looks, MTV bullshit song. Music is supposed to make you feel, think, and feel some more. Music, in the first place, wasn't meant to be a means of income, or show business as you put it. People like Avril Lavange, BSB, N'Sync are all wrong. Because its unemotional (no matter how much it makes some little 13 year old cry to watch them lipsync), they dont even fucking play music (an instrument), they dont credit the bands (the ones who really matter) who play their music, they name the entire band after THEMSELVES when they're the ones who make their music suck, they ALL sound the same, they aren't original in the least. SO yes, i think that all pop bands are wrong, MTV is wrong, music for the love of music is where its at, and if you listen to anything else other than Pop: i commend you, thanks for not being brainwashed.

Commercially Viable? Perhaps. But thats not the point i'm trying to make. You either play music because you love music, or you play music for the money and to be famous. If you reach fame from the first then you accomplished what lots of people didn't have the talent to. If you reached fame from the second... then go ahead and sing your one song, people will remember you for about 15 minutes, and then you can go away and we wont have to listen to you anymore.

The bands/musicians that are remembered are the true musicians. Dont be something you're not just to get famous and you might stick with a couple people or change them in some way. No one's gonna go out and change their lifestyle or think about an issue or sit down and think about something because of an avril Lavange song.

If you think about it, the root word for Music is the word Muse.... do you find pop bands as a muse? I know i dont. I'd rather castrate myself with a spoon than be inspired by those retards.

{edit - thought of something i should have added}

"The only difference between me and a madman is that... i'm not mad!" - Salvador Dali

[This message has been edited by Sanzen (edited 04-13-2003).]

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 04-14-2003 00:54
quote:
Hmm... I don't think that was supposed to be funny...


I was being sarcastic that funny thing is all in a sarcastic way.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 04-14-2003 01:49
quote:
as tool so poignantly stated - "I sold out long before you ever even heard my name, I sold my soul to make a record, dipshit"



I'm beginning to learn more and more about you every day DL .

Samzen. I think you got it right when you mentioned music's purpose. But I'll be honest with you. I stopped reading you're post after you mentioned the BSB, NSync, bullshit scam. - True they don't play their own instruments, true they don't write their own songs. But they are talented. I hate their music and probably always will, but they've got talent. They're the same as the people you see on American Idol. They've got voices, and they use them. Just because you don't like the music, doesn't mean it sucks.


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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 04-14-2003 03:53

http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=1163&sortby=rating

Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-14-2003 04:02

That's great, now we'll have somewhere to direct all the people who really wanted to know what you thought of "Let Go". I knew we'd need one eventually.

Thank you.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 04-14-2003 04:03

I never said that Avril sucks did I?

Sanzen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Raleigh, NC
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 04-14-2003 04:03

they might have voices, but do they use them for good? no. they waste it. have you heard the idiot justin timberlake's new music?... bah, lol - i have a right to my own opinion.

PS - .... yes it does suck.

"The only difference between me and a madman is that... i'm not mad!" - Salvador Dali

[This message has been edited by Sanzen (edited 04-14-2003).]

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 04-14-2003 04:07

the "rock your body"? it's ok.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-14-2003 04:26

Yannah: So we now have 2 FAQs for you to say you were wrong about Avril L?:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/1162/
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/1163/

Personally that is 2 too many but even in a less sane world I would have thought that 1 would have been enough.

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 04-14-2003 05:43

could you just please delete the first one, cos I forgot that I've disabled the allow edit feature on the post, please Emps!

[This message has been edited by Yannah (edited 04-14-2003).]

Rick
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Borneo Island
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-14-2003 11:58

why someone has to hate another person, especially a person who he/she never really know? if you don't like avril, so what? what do you really want from her? she doesn't know you, so you don't have to be bothered by her. let her do his own things, and you do your own. if you don't like her, then go find some others whom you like. for me, she O.K, maybe because of all the media hype, but i'm on a natural stance..

well, why hate a person anyway..

cell 799

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-14-2003 14:21

sanzen - i'll never dispute that you should go into a music career because you love what you do and you have the talent to go along with that.

Bottom line is, if it doesn't sell you're not going to get anywhere. Obviously there are mulitple levels of the 'sellout' phase, and some people leap right in with their eyes and ears closed.

Even the Beatles wouldn't have been what they were without George Martin pushing them in the right (as in 'more commercially viable') direction.


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