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JKMabry
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From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-26-2003 18:58

from maX's new release/Asylum edition there was quite a few of you that stated that you don't care for word wrapping one bit. I was pretty shocked actully since I use it constantly, mainly for proofing content. I absolutely hate alt tabbing between a browser window and the code, or switching to preview for that matter, I've just become used to reading and proofing it right there, no need for an extra app, key combo, nothin, just read and fix as you go.

I think everyone that didn't like it stated reasons for markup/coding so I assume most of you folks proofread content in a seperate app?

I just wanted to ask how you guys handle proofing your content, you obviously don't do it in the editor without wordwrap, that would be sadistic. I know there's no true sadists here =)

Jason

norm
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From: [s]underwater[/s] under-snow in Juneau
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 11-26-2003 19:15

When coding in any language, I like to insert my linebreaks (by hitting return/enter) so that I can ensure that the visual formatting will allow others and myself to view the code with out horizontal scrolling.Just like indenting for visual clarity....

At the risk of sounding narrow minded or prudish, I've always figured that if it is a pain in the ass, you must be doing it wrong.




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mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-26-2003 19:49

I proofread the content in MS Word And as I've said in the other topic, I use Word Wrap only when reading plain text files in Notepad.

As far as HTML Beauty is concerned, Word Wrap will come back as soon as possible...


poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 11-26-2003 20:07

I must be sadist 'coz I hate word-wrap ( it makes ONE line appears as SEVERAL ones ) and I proof my code directly in UltraEdit. Why would I need something else than a good editor with syntax highlighting, block detection ( Ctrl+B ), my eyes ( assisted by a clear indentation ) and my brain ( when it's not fucked up ) ?

Though I'm addicted to long and meaningfull variables and functions names, I don't have to scroll too often. Notice that I'm in 1280x1024 and use the Courier New in 10px which gives me ~154 characters visibles per line in UltraEdit, so I don't scroll horizontally quite often.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

eyezaer
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From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-26-2003 20:43

*sinckers* JK dont put line breaks in his code *snickers*


...what?

mmm, if i have a sizable chunk of code i slap it into word... but i dont do much web makin myself.


JKMabry
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From: out of a sleepy funk
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posted posted 11-26-2003 23:46

I put line breaks in code, but not copy, j00 dork, *slaps Izz with a 2 day old catfish* =D



Jason

CPrompt
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posted posted 11-27-2003 01:45

i just don't know, maybe i'm "weird". although I've been called a lot worse. I just don't care about having word wrap or not.
I just press the enter key.

when i code a web page content, i just indent it and make the sections all line up. just the way that I've always done it.
To tell you the truth, I am not even sure that i even know that the ME++ edition had word wrap.


but on the topic of proof reading in word, doen't that put extra characters in there that won't let the page validate? Or is it that when you
save it in Beauty, it takes out those characters. Well, i take that back. I recently did a website for a friend and she had the content as word files.
I think i either cut and pasted or just re typed it. Can't remember.

Eigh, I don't care if it has word wrap or not mr.maX, I love the prog anyway

Later,

C:\


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DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-27-2003 01:52

Yup....I simply add a line break at a pleasing interval.

don't see any reason not to.......

Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-27-2003 17:58

I love word wrap... but not for coding...

.... content should have every paragraph as a long line so the brower, div, whatever can break when it's convenient and in won't break twice where it looks crappy...

...still pissed off at Linux for not having a lite texteditor that word-wraps properly....


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Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-27-2003 18:22

I always use word wrap when writing actual text. Never when writing code, but for anything else, I use it.

quote:
Yup....I simply add a line break at a pleasing interval.

don't see any reason not to.......



I used to do that. Then, I would read through my 10-line paragraph and decide I want to add something at the beginning, and all of the line breaks need to be deleted and re-inserted...

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 11-28-2003 03:12

Like others here, I use MS Word to proofread. In fact, I type up my content in Word and then run a macro that escapes all my entities (like quotes and dashes and stuff) and adds <p> tags in the appropriate places. Then I just slap the whole thing into my template and Bam! Bob's your uncle. It's pretty cool.

Of course, I always reread everything on my site in my browser, and I generally end up catching a few typos there as well. But I'm just anal retentive like that.


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poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 11-28-2003 04:22

Suho1004: I'm sure I'll regret that, but could you elaborate on this : "But I'm just anal retentive like that."

Anyway, like many coders I'm not a big fan of Word, and don't want to install it just for its proof reading falicities. When I'm writing the content myself, I prefer to spend some time reading and reading again my phrases especially in english. If it's not my own content, I assume it's already been proof read, and if it's not I know somebody will proof read it later and jump on me to fix THEIR errors.

Hey, I'm not a writer, I'm a web.dev. You know, the guys who live in a dark rooms and talk in geeky codes and weird accronyms.

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 11-28-2003 04:44

poi: I'm going to go on the assumption that you are not familiar with the term. It refers to "personality traits, such as meticulousness, avarice, and obstinacy." As for the origins of the phrase, well, they're not pleasant, but it's a commonly-used term, especially in its shortened form of "anal" (mainly, I think, because people just like saying "anal"). When I was in university, there was a guy who lived in our flat who was so anal retentive that everyone just called him "Anus".

Now stop trying to derail the thread.


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