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raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-15-2003 07:32


I've tried to find this in Photoshop help....no luck -
How do you draw lines (other than the line tool) in Photoshop?
I'm using Photoshop 6, and thanks for the past help.

religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 07-15-2003 08:43

Um, perhaps a bit more detail on what you're trying to do, and why you can't use the line tool?

I suppose you could use the pen tool and then stroke the path...

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-15-2003 14:57

Eh, yeah...give us more detail.

- line tool
- paintbrush
- pencil tool
- pen tool
- stroke

etc.......



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Paranoid
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-15-2003 22:34

Use the paint brush tool and hold shift

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krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 07-15-2003 22:48

Buy a Wacom and use a straight edge?

:::11oh1:::

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-15-2003 23:09

yeah, a 12x12 oughta accomodate a US ruler...

The line tool, I *think* in PS 6 also has some adjustments to be made on it's tool bar where you can specify it as filled pixels, a shape layer or paths, if you're just wanting a line with no fuss, make sure the line tool is set to "filled pixels"

Jason

Raptor
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: AČ, MI, USA
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 07-16-2003 00:54



PS6 image. Same order for PS7, but different images.

first one = new shape layer
second one = new work path
last one = filled pixels

When you use the last one you should check the anti-alias box too. Unless you want an aliased line (which is sometimes the case).



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raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-16-2003 09:10

I'd love to show you what I'm trying to do, but I don't know how to post an image.......
did I mention I'm a newbie here?......(duh).

I'm rendering a car, and drawing reflections into the side of it. I'm trying to replicate
a cycle fender in the side of the hot-rod-styled vehicle. There are other uses, but this is the one I use most (at the moment). What I'm doing now is making a circle selection, then air-brushing a faint spray, then moving it, and doing that again, then cleaning up the top and bottom to make it look like a reflection........When I learn how to post an image, I'll try to show you. And, thanks for the past help.
The URL is: raybee_91335.tripod.com/indexx.html

religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 07-16-2003 17:37

which version of photoshop are you using...

raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-20-2003 09:21

I'm using Photoshop 6.
MORE DETAIL: Picture the 3/4 back view of a shiny car with cycle fenders. I'm drawing the reflection of that cycle fender into the side of the car body. What I'm doing now is
using the circle selection, re-shaping it, placing it where I want it, then airbrushing a faint image, then moving it a little, doing this again, and finally, tracing this with the lasso selection tool to put the final amount of reflection into place. When it's all done, I then blur the reflection for more realism......I know there must be a simpler way to do this, like mirror imaging the actual wheel, then transforming that, but I haven't had any
luck with that to this point. Is that enough detail????? Sorry for the long-winded reply.
BTW - How can I post an image to get this point across better??

religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 07-20-2003 13:16

for posting an image you've to upload it someplace that allows outside linking,
and then use ubb-style codes to activate it.

You can learn about the codes for this board in this :FAQ:
(which are the same for the board), or by clicking on 'UBB Code is ON' on the left hand side of the edit box when posting.
(that's a different text from the one in the faq).

so long,

Tyberius Prime

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 07-20-2003 20:32

On the reflections thing, if you select the area to be reflected (make it bigger than you think it shoud be), then type CTRL+C and then CTRL+V, it will paste a copy of the reflection into a new layer.
Then you can transform, displace, liquify, to make it fit where needed.

Then set the blending mode to Soft Light, or Overlay, Hard Light, or whichever suits the colors and refraction best.

Hope that helps.

raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-28-2003 10:10

I've tried what you suggested, but I need to make a mirror image of the selection to
make it work, and I've made a mess out of all my attempts....so far. Is there a tutorial for something like this? Also, is it possible to rotate the image while doing the transform ? I realize it's probably simple when you know how.........right now, I'm at a loss. All I'm doing is messing up the selection, so I revert back to trying to draw it
with the polygon tool, or faking it with the circle selection I described earlier. Is it just me, or do the people writing the help files just plain evil??????? They'll tell you everything but what you're looking for! arrrggghh!!!

religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 07-28-2003 17:07

Ctrl and click the desired layer in the layers palette. You should see the marching ants around the shape you want to reflect.

Ctr J makes a copy of that shape on a new layer. Now Ctrl + click that new layer in the layers palette. Again you should see the marching ants around the shape you want to reflect.

Now CtrlT WILL SURROUND THE 'SHAPE' WITH A TRANSFORM BOX COMPLETE WITH 6 HANDLES. Now 'Right' click should present you with a menu with numerous options the very last of which is flip 'vertical' Click vertical.

You should now have a mirror image pretty much on top of the original shape. Use arrow keys or just grab the mirrored image and move it wherever.

Those "Handles" on the transform box allow you to perform the options available on that right click menu. Select an option then click and grab one of those handles and see what happens.

About 'rotating'... with a transform box (Ctrl T) around the desired shape place the cursor on one of the corner 'handles' now slowly start moving out from that corner. The double ended arrow should now change to a semi-circle arriw. When it does... click that and to rotate in whatever direction you like. Holding down 'shift' will rotate the shape in increments of 45 degreez.
Then continue on with Dbob's info...



raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-31-2003 08:55

http://raybee_91335.tripod.com/renderings-by-date-1.html

Well, I did what you suggested, and it worked! I really overworked the image so it ended up very large, and the image came out muddy, but the reflection is actually there. The point is to show you what I was trying to do, and to thank everyone for
helping me learn how. Now, the next one may come out a lot cleaner.......it would almost have to - I massaged this poor image to death trying to get things done.
Hope the link works, and thanks again for all the help.

religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

EzRa-D
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 07-31-2003 16:37

nice stuff raybee, me likey -which one of those cars was it you were working on?

and thanks to Raptor for that tip about the pen tool it just so happens i was trying to figure out how to do a stroked path with the pen and i stumbled on this post.

raybee
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Reseda, California, U.S.A.
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 08-02-2003 08:42

It's the second image from the top left, the rear view with the front cycle fender reflected into the hood. I'm glad you liked it. The rest of them with that kind of reflection were "faked", or hand-drawn with the polygon lasso tool.......in many cases, the rear-fender-reflections were selected, then transformed slightly, and painted.
I'm hoping to do more with the tools in the future.


religion + oil = war, over and over and over and over..........

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 08-02-2003 19:52

You`re getting it now. (keeping in mind that in reality, that reflection would be the back side of the wheel assembly)

And ,man, those jaggies are nasty.

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