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wizard08
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: preston
Insane since: Sep 2003

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:07

So I was following a tutorial on how to paint in general in photoshop using a wacom. Do you sketch a premelinary outline of the object and then block in the colours of the object. Also How do you develop basic details using the hard brushes in Adobe Photoshop. I was using the following tutorial to paint
a feather in photoshop. I've managed to block in the shape of the feather and the spine but I can't seem to develop any highlights or shadows of the feather using the brushes specified. Any hints, tips suggestiosn would be greatly appreciated.


http://div.dyndns.org/EK/tutorial/feather/

Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:14

Im not quite sure what your asking, sketch sketches if you want to(I'd recommend) block in colours like the tutorial if you want to.

You can't get highlights etc... umm, change the colour of your brush ? Read Amerasu's tutorial for some basics, basically practice and paint like you'd paint non-digitally.

You wacom is pressure sensitive right ... set the opacity to your wacoms pressure dealy, its in an odd spot in photoshop and a different place depending on your version of ps.

Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:15

I cant understand your problem. once you've blocked in the main colour, select a smaller, soft brush, chose a lighter colour and paint. perhaps i'm missing something here?




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wizard08
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: preston
Insane since: Sep 2003

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:34

How do I paint in the highlights and shadows using a large soft brush I tried it and mine dosen't look anything like her's. When I tried to paint the highlight and shadows it looked worse. She says use a large soft brush to paint in highlights and shadows. Am i missing a point here ?

Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:36

To be honest I don't really know have a clue what he wants either.

Maybe use some question marks in your post instead of putting them in the topic title where it makes little sense.

Is your problem with the wacom, photoshop or technique ?

... maybe just rephrase your question.

Amerasu
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:42

Try turning the opacity down on your brush, that should help you some with the highlights and the shadows.


Amerasu

[This message has been edited by Amerasu (edited 09-24-2003).]

Lacuna
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: the Asylum ghetto
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:44

it would be a great help if you could post what you've tried so far. so people can see where you're having trouble.
try messing around with different brush sizes until you find one that works.

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Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:45

ah ... what she means is use a big soft brush to make the feather generally brighter or darker over the whole object. She does not mean draw each detail with a big softy, try making the image huge to start off with(depending on what see means by large she probably resized the shown images down from what she was painting at) and use a smaller soft one again, then keep making your brush smaller adding different size details as you go along.
Is this making sense? , I know I was critising your question, but I'm generally really bad at explaining things to people, more so in real life. If you hang on I'll draw a wee pic to illustrate it (only have a mouse here in work).

Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:55


I know its crap but do you get what I'm saying ?

Amerasu
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From:
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 09-24-2003 23:57

He's cool Hugh

wizard08
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: preston
Insane since: Sep 2003

posted posted 09-25-2003 08:27

wow that's cool

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 09-25-2003 14:48

study fine arts

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 09-25-2003 15:20

Seriously though. I don't even know why you have a Wacom if you don't know the fundamentals of doing any kind of art.

Before you even attempt at doing some kind of graphic, you should first learn how to draw/paint/sculpt/whatever.

Go take a couple of art classes, read some books, and practice. After about 2 years of that, come back and see if you can digitally paint a feather.



[This message has been edited by synax (edited 09-25-2003).]

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 09-25-2003 18:02

i think synax has a point here. a wacom is not cheap, so buying one without knowing how to handle it is ....... serious....yah

Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: *land
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 09-25-2003 22:32

I disagree. *shrug*

I thought I'd put this out there as well... :FAQ:

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 09-26-2003 07:57
quote:
a wacom is not cheap


The Graphire2's actually pretty cheap, at some places.

But yeah, learn how to handle a pencil (or pen) before trying that little wacom stylus thingy...

Ramasax
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: PA, US
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 09-29-2003 06:03

Don't know if it is useful, and I am still learning to paint (digitally and non), but one thing that helped me better render highlights and shading was working with photos. I still produce crap, but it's better crap than before, and that's all I need to be happy.

I partially agree that a Wacom without any non-digital experience is a waste. When I first got a Wacom, it was basically a toy that I had no idea how to use. I had little experience with real life painting and drawing, and was a fool to think that would have made me any better. That was 1 1/2 years ago. It is still a toy, but I have learned how to use it ... if only a little.

Oh yeah, and did anyone mention to study fine arts?




[This message has been edited by Ramasax (edited 09-29-2003).]

BlackSun
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: MN
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 10-03-2003 21:16

Buying a Wacom without experience isnt a waste. How else are you to learn, to gain that experience without tinkering and playing with it. He obviously knows what he wants, just needs alittle help in getting there. But to criticize him for the purchase and start screaming to "Go study fine arts." Maybe thats not his passion. He asked for help on something, not for everyone to critique him on his choices. Jeez people.

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 10-04-2003 00:18
quote:
How else are you to learn, to gain that experience without tinkering and playing with it. He obviously knows what he wants, just needs alittle help in getting there. But to criticize him for the purchase and start screaming to "Go study fine arts." Maybe thats not his passion. He asked for help on something, not for everyone to critique him on his choices. Jeez people



The wacom was created for illustrators, architects, and so on...in order to have better control over your hand work while working with graphic programs.

He asked how to paint with wacom....

we answear there is no such a thing, how to paint with wacom...if you wanna paint I said already, go study fine arts...not your passion? the quit using wacom...what else you wanna use it for then? you can sure as hell shove it up your ass, but I wouldnt recomend.

in order to paint with wacom I suggest you understanding how to paint in real life, how to draw, color theory, tones, light and shadow, perspective....you can learn all this by studing fine arts.....if you dont like it then you are not gonna know how to paint, if you are not gona know how to paint you might as well quit begging someone to teach you about it.

how you gonna get the expirience? simple dude....you go practice fine arts

wacom is not gonna make you better artist, fine arts will.

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