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Nimraw
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Styx
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-04-2003 22:40


Well I'm trying to get back in the saddle drawing pencil portraits after a long break and have managed to do this


Now I'm rather pleased with the way this turned out myself, but in doing so I'm being blinded to the multitude of improvements I know I can make.

So, please help me... I crave crits!

Oh, and I got the Asylumites OK to use her in the pic and to post it



(side note)
I just realized that this is the second last binary post number for quite a while for me.
I need sleep.
(/side note)

[This message has been edited by Nimraw (edited 11-04-2003).]

Ruku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Darkside of the Moon
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 11-04-2003 23:04

Nice lookin. IMO - her lips look small o.o Otherwise nice work. The hair's great.

I wish I could draw ><

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Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-04-2003 23:09

You have a awesome talent and I love what you did with my photo. I would love to have such a gift !

Maruman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: down under
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-05-2003 01:09

hey nimraw nice pic.

i love hand drawing its so much more emotional? than digital stuff. you can just let go and express yourself in a way i can never achvie when working with digital

as for your drawing, a couple of things: dunno if its just the scan, but i think you could work up a bit more tone and contrast. i think it looks a bit washed out. (maybe thats the effect you going for though?)

also the nose looks like it has a fairly sharp angle on the edge, maybe soften it out a little?

the cheek area works really well i think, though mabye more detail/contrast around the ear?

just my opinion hope its of some help

Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 11-05-2003 02:09

While I am a fan of traditional art, i undoubtly disagree with you on that "hand drawing its so much more emotional? than digital stuff.". Its not the medium you use what express emotion, its the emotion itself you have while doing your work.

And i really like the drawing. I'd critique, but all the few glitches i found were already stated. :P

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kRioni
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted

From:
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 11-05-2003 09:29

ear too far back, too small seemingly
tip of nose a bit high for a person, though could have been subject
eyebrow seems to end early, just before tip of eye (thin part on our left side)
final error: i dont have her phone number j/k

nice shading and proportioning dude, great hair, love the pencil tech you have


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Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 11-05-2003 09:31

I havent' been able to view pictures or thumbnails on DA for days now



Maruman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: down under
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-05-2003 11:18

maybe emotional is the wrong word, maybe organic?

what i was trying to say is, that i find it easier to express emotions
i find that a lot of subconcious emotion comes out in my art when working with live media
i guess thats just my personal opinion


Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-05-2003 19:25

Looks great, excellent work.
as for comments, the earing is a tad out-liney looking, its stands out oddly somehow, and nose lips are smaller, and her ear is a bit too bright compared to to reference.

Nimraw
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Styx
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-05-2003 21:01

Thanks for the tips all.

It seems that the everlasting problem for me when doing pencil drawings is that I'm a bit shy regarding contrast. It's not the first time I hear the same crit, I can tell you...
This pic *does* have a bit more of it in the paper version (I'm no scanner genius) but it's still a bit to "flat", as you have pointed out.


The ear you say... For the record I'd like to state that I hate ears and teeth! No matter what I do, they always come out weird!
Oh, well.. I guess its time for play, fiddle, learn then


Hopefully I'll get the time to do a v2.0 from scratch using the same reference during next week.
Perhaps I'll dare to lay on the lead a bit thicker on that one...


CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 11-06-2003 01:57

well i have no crits....sorry. I am no artist but I love it. When the image was loading I knew that was Shii. So, that tells me that you did a good job on rendering the photo. Have to see the original now.

The hair is just fantastic. It looks very real.

I thought this was kind of funny:

quote:
This drawing was done on a 4-masted Clipper Ship crossing the Atlantic.



Later,

C:\


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Xel
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Trumansburg, NY, USA
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 11-06-2003 04:59

My only complaint is that the earing stands out too much and doesn't seem to look good with that ear, to my eyes. Maybe what I mean is that the earing has more definition than the ear, which looks softer/blurrier, and hence looks out of place.

But my crits aren't even worth 2c, more like 2/3 of a c, so..

[edit: Great job on the hair, imo.]

-Xel



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kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-09-2003 18:28

Overall a good start...while a little weak in the construction (anatomically) you seem to have a good sense of form and light....which could be pushed a few steps ahead with more variation in texture.
If you are into this type of "tight" imaging I highly recommend this site for some inspiration...maybe it's been posted before?, but still worth checking out.....
this guy is surreal. http://www.jdhillberry.com/

cheers,
kromaz


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