Topic awaiting preservation: Peanut Gallery for "Should Drugs Be Legal?" III (Page 1 of 2)

Well...looks like the thread for II was somehow...deleted. Don't know how, but it seems to be gone. So, post your comments here (and damn, because there was some really good comments here, before...*sigh*)

So, what's the status on the Formal Debate?

ws ya checked the archives?????

Yes, of course...the thread name exists, but when clicked, there is nothing there...

*shrugs*

Asylum gremlins?

Should Drugs Be Legal II

Um, I know I was archiving about a week ago in here. That might have been a casualty, I don't recall.

Jestah

It's there when I click, hmm...

Many thanks to Jestah, for finding it...let the Peanut Gallery continue!! Yeeehooo!

If this debate is on the road, im here to moderate it.

Yes...normally, it was your responsibility to keep this thing alive...that's part of Moding...you could of contacted any Mad Scientist...me, for example...

Now you know.

On with the Debate!

Peacepipe, anyone? *Puff, puff*

So, a debate about the legalization of drugs? hmmm. . .

Just to butt in. . . I personally don't think that there is anything wrong with canabis. I can't smoke it because of my job, but in my earlier days, I used to be quite the "pot head"

Now, I think that I am quite level headed. So, I never let it get in the way of the things that I had to do (school, pay bills, etc...) Then again, if I were not like that then canabis could have hindered my *values*, so to speak. Same goes for alcohol. The wrong substance in the wrong hands can lead to bad things. Just like anything else.

I have had this conversation many a times with my "pot smoking buddies". We tend to think that it would hurt tobacco companies, alcohol companies, and many other facits. Take for instance cotton. It is known that you can use hemp to make clothing. Hemp is VERY durable and can be woven to be as soft or softer than cotton.

You can grow it just about anywhere and it isn't really that hard. Trust me.

OK, that is my rant for now. Carry on. . .

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

I thought this would interest some people

doing a sure for "Should Drugs Be Legal" and I get this
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Should+Drugs+be+Legal

GO GOOGLE .. we are #1 on that list


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hey ram any idea when ya replying in formal...cool about the google result

working on it right now .. but if not today within the next two days .. before the end of the week


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Go Debaters, go!!

We're No. 1 on Google...yippee!

The google placement rocks!!! Can't wait for next installment.

Sweet. We rank higher than the PBS Think Tank! I'm also looking forward to the continuation.

should drug really be leagal..hmm..well it doesnt cause anything good does it?

hehe...check this out
just for fun hehe...

Well, I am the unbiased moderator Ruski..

But I'll leave you on this note: Drugs have had a negative impact on the world. However, I think drugs have done us some good. And if you don't agree with me, go home and take all you're albums, all you're tapes, and burn them. Because those artists that have enhanced your lives over the years with their music... Reeeeaaaal fucking high on drugs.


I'm not taking sides... Heh.

tool owns lol,
just browsing old posts, kinda bored.

so i'm going to bump this just out of respect

should drugs be legal? well, you have to think: there are many many stupid people in the world, drugs are going to get a lot of people killed when you put them in bad hands. Even those who wouldn't normally endanger the lives of others. If they legalized it though, i think more poeple would turn to other things, like uhh..... smoking monkies or something. But regardless, it would be dangerous and relatively bad to the economy (which is a major reason that the US Govt. hasn't legalized it yet) I wouldn't be as worried about marijuana being legalized as I would something like crack or heroin, stuff that really kills people daily. Because if you legalized it, it would be like multiplying that threat times a million.

just my 1.86 cents (economic deflation due to the legalization of marijuana)

"Here we go.. down that same 'ole road again.." - Dredg

BUMP YO RAMMSTIEN WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Tom, for keeping this at the top...that's the spirit!

Remember, particapants, the world is watching...

Yes, please keep this going! We need to get this one wrapped up pretty soon to move onto another. Otherwise it will look like it's stalled. So feel just a little pressure here not a lot just a little

I'm sorry guys .. I've been all over the place as of late .. please excuse my rudeness


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Bumpedy bump bump, Bumpedy bump bump, look at frosty go....

Bumpedy bump bump, Bumpedy bump bump, to the debate he goes....

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to you and only you InSiDeR .. ;P

[enjoy the read peeps .. I finally forced myself to get around to it]


[This message has been edited by RammStein (edited 01-23-2003).]

Excellent, Ramm, pressed 7 at step 3. Good job

Just a reminder, Tom may be busy with the film project.

no its ok, i want to wrap this up, so people can get on with the next debate, so i think question time is next, thanks Ram i know ya been busy....

nice reply

Yes, Folks, the Debate is Awwwn!

*Gets some popcorn, settles down*

*Munch, munch* 'Hey, down in front, yah half-crazed electro-shock junkie! I can't see the Debate!'

'Ahhh...that's better...and quit shaking all over the place...that's good.'

Peacepipe, anyone? *Puff, puff*

[pufff pufff] .. thanks Mr. Shaman .. needed that .. tom hope you enjoyed the read as did the others .. I'd like to hear some comments on it .. everyone like the debate so far?


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Ram back to you in the formal

quote:

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B6. What is the libertarian position on the "drug war"?
That all drugs should be legalized. Drug-related crime (which is over 85% of all crime) is caused not by drugs but by drug laws that make the stuff expensive and a monopoly of criminals. This stance isn't "approving" of drugs any more than defending free speech is "approving" of Nazi propaganda; it's just realism -- prohibition doesn't work. And the very worst hazard of the drug war may be the expansion of police powers through confiscation laws, "no-knock" warrants and other "anti-drug" measures. These tactics can't stop the drug trade, but they are making a mockery of our supposed Constitutional freedoms.

Libertarians would leave in place laws against actions which directly endanger the physical safety of others, like driving under the influence of drugs, or carrying a firearm under the influence.

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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/libertarianism.html

Well...this thing is almost finished...nice to see. I would very much like to thank the participants for taking part in another exciting Formal Debate.

[Emp edit: I've removed your suggestion - I'd recommend you and genis discuss this privately and then start a new thread - this one needs to stay on the rails]

NP - I was just following the suggestion of the Doc...but I can see your point...so, without further ado, on with the Debate!!!

peacepipe, anyone? *puff, puff*

[This message has been edited by Emperor (edited 01-29-2003).]

[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 01-29-2003).]

WS, stop where you are immediately.

I have an idea that I hope to put to reality as soon as this is finished . So all people "debating" on our next debate topic can chill... Just wait until you see my idea first.

WS if you have any questions just Q me.

Ok STOP, READ TOPIC!!!!!!!

quote:

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Peanut Gallery for "Should Drugs Be Legal?" III

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Will the members of the peanut gallery please refrain from entering any bitching contests in this thread, if you want to start that do it somewhere else, if you want a new debate, open a thread. This one hasnt finished yet, its taken a lot of time to get this far, so PLEASE lay off the personailties and cry baby crap...

meanwhile hopefully back on track...........

request done thx

[This message has been edited by tomeaglescz (edited 01-29-2003).]

tomeaglescz: What I'll do is remove WS's suggestions on the next debate and delete genis' post. We need to keep this thread focused on the debate thanks.

You 2 guys might want to thrash out your differences over email before starting a new thread on this as I can see it getting out of control and being shut down again.

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

cheers emps...sorry for the caps

ok so what happened to those posts?

i thought they were on track though i can also see your point in removing them

maybe the powers that be should place posts like these into a thread of of their own

instead

you have the power, don't you?

to create threads

just as we do

but when a post is lost it is lost

alas!

so shoot me

outcydr: We are trying to keep the discussion focused on the actual debate "Should Drugs Be Legal?" and I removed the sections I mentioned beacuse they were likely to completely derail that debate.

And this isn't the place for discussing this - if anyone has any other concerns then start a new thread (either in this forum or the MS lab) or they may also be removed. I'm not trying to stiffle discussion I am trying to keep this debate on track.

So.......... on with the debate

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

~duh~

i thought this was the peanut gallery

*throws peanuts in the general direction of WebShaman*

hey dude - fire up that peacepipe again

edit: i love Mod Squad

[This message has been edited by outcydr (edited 01-29-2003).]