Topic: 3d-community.com

Please review my website, I'd be glad to recieve some feedback. I'm not quite sure about the navigation and design. The content is not complete yet ("about-" and "getting started section" will be coming soon.)

the website is on http://www.3d-community.com

thanks

PS: does anybody know why the scrollbar is always visible?

[This message has been edited by Gweilo (edited 12-01-2002).]

functional yet impersonal.

body {overflow:auto}

I updated the layout. Did you prefer the last one? What can I improve? What about the colors (blue/orange/black/white)?

Any help, comments, or review is appreciated.
http://www.3d-community.com

The layout and colors works. I don't know what it was like so I can't compare it to that... The only thing layout wise that need improving is the background color when you view a page that don't have enough color to fill the whole browser. When I load the 'user' section of the page the 'bottom bar' is placed in the middle of the screen and bellow that everything is black. I think it would look better if the bottom bar stuck to the lower part of the browser window even though you don't have enough content to 'justify it'. That was a terrible explanation, but I hope you understand what I mean

If you want the page to be compilant with the new standards (something it should be) you have to add a DOCTYPE delcaration to the beginning of the file. You also have to close all of your tags (for example <meta .... /> instead of <meta ...> and <img ... /> instead of <img ...> ). I'm also a fan of table less layouts, but since your page looks good with them and it would be a lot of work changing it I won't comment any more on that part...

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thanks for your critique.
1) I was thinking about a solution for your first point, but didn't find any possible solution (with tables..), because <table height="100%"> would be too much. Does anybody know how I could do this?
2) I'll add the doctype, thanks.
3) Oh, I didn't know these tags have to be closed. It'll be hell of a lot work going through the whole code.
4) I never really thought about it, and actually never worked a lot with alternatives (css for example), since I learned html before css was "invented". But, the layout with tables doesn't work perfectly, how I actually want it to.
- Table height
- When a wide image is fitted in the table (as here for exampe: http://www.3d-community.com/images.php?id=107) The top navigation bar isn't shifted right with the image (because these are two different tables)
Where can I read about these alternate layout techniques? Because I don't really like tables neither.
Thanks

[This message has been edited by Gweilo (edited 12-15-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Gweilo (edited 12-15-2002).]

Here is something to get you started down the road of CSS layouts:
- FAQ about CSS
- www.bluerobot.com
- http://www.glish.com/css/
- http://developer.apple.com/internet/css/introcsslayout.html

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Is it possible to make the bottom bar exactly fit to the screen height with CSS?

I tried the following:

#bottom {
position:absolute;
top:100% -20px;
}

But naturally it didn't work. I hope you understand what I want it to do. If there's not enough content in the main part, the bottom bar (including background color) should be shifted down to the bottom of the page, unlike on http://www.3d-community.com/user.php?all=0 for example.

Is there any way I could achieve this (without JS)?

use #bottombar { bottom: 0px; }, that will make sure that the lower border of the bottombar is sticking to the bottom of the browser.

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I really like your page.

I think it would be cool if when you were at this page: http://www.3d-community.com/usrtop.php?all=pointavg you could click on the persons name and go to a page showing all their work.

Like if you click on neilrennison's name it would go to this page: http://www.3d-community.com/user.php?userid=36



[This message has been edited by Gilbert Nolander (edited 12-17-2002).]

Hey Ven,

with that closing tags stuff, so <meta ... /> is just the equivalent of <meta></meta> right? just a shorter way.

so if you used a font tag (if you would) you wouldnt do <font ... />Text</font>

hmm. =)

the colours are nice in concept, but a tad 'off'.

first of all, a colour scheme is a planned combination of colors.

see that blue you picked on the left? #1E4C81?
it's not too bad - so use it.

i saved a local copy of your homepage, and did a search and replace, changing all "003388" to "1E4C81". it started looking better already.

and that orange is jsut ... off... too much red i think. personally, i reckon you should try a few different hues... but hey, it's your site!

the bevel on the title looks ugly. i appreciate that you are trying to make it look 3d, but really, all it does is make it look jaggy or something.

there's also a lot of blank space between the 'news' and 'about' text, with no apparent reason for it...

the clouds picture is great.

Thanks for your comments.

@Gilbert: Yeah. I actually didn't think about it. I'll change it, asap.

@reitsma: what do you suggest else, instead of beveal? First I just had the flat text. And I don't want to "overkill" the logo (I hope you understand what I mean with this) I want to keep it clean and simple. Any suggestions?
And that #003388 color was from my old layout.. I actually thought I deleted all of them, but thanks for reminding me to delete the rest.

Oh, and the orange.. that's another thing.. My screen *** - everything is too dark, and when I try to lighten things up, the light colors are simply white. I tried configuring the screen - contrast, brightness, color adjustment, but nothing seemed to work correctly. I'll look at it on an other computer