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shocktreatement Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate From: Insane since: Apr 2001	posted 04-20-2001 14:58 HEy, I have been working on my site for a little while now and I have been having problems with Netscape. The website is: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement/main.html I use absolute location for the down.html section of the site. When I view it with Netscape,I can only see on image that leads to one section that I have started on. However,when I am on MSN,I hve three images,that lead to three different sections which is perfect. I viewed my website with Netscape 4.7. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix this problem? This is really getting me upset. Should I use tables instead? --ShockTreatement-- "Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite
mr.maX Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Belgrade, Serbia Insane since: Sep 2000	posted 04-20-2001 21:04 Have you seen how your web site looks lin higher resolutions (i.e. 1152x864)? Everything is displaced and doesn't look very nice. Anyway, as far as NN is concerned, you have some invalid HTML code there and that may be causing problems... One example is this: <img src="spacer.gif" height=1 width="95"(you can make this any width you want so that it fits any background)> You CAN'T write any meaningless text (I've bolded it) inside HTML tags!
shocktreatement Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate From: Insane since: Apr 2001	posted 04-20-2001 23:16 My site isn't even finished yet. GIve me a chance here! I fixed that little sentence because it is causing the problems. I am going to put a little sign on the main page that says "Best resolution 800 x 600" and I am going to create another main page for those who use higher resolutions so hopefully the website will be able to fit everyone. I have just started. I need time to think of what I want for the site and how I want it to fit in the online community. --Shock-- "Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 04-21-2001 01:27 Let me make a different suggestion: make your page automatically work in all browser sizes. People will like that better. Here's how you can do it: I see you're using things like <FRAMESET ROWS="3%, 23%, 3%"> You can change that to specify an actual pixel width or height of the columns or rows. Do it like this: <FRAMSET ROWS="100,,80"> That will make a 100 pixel high row at the top, an 80 pixel high row at the bottom, and the middle row will simply take whatever's left over. That will fix everything on the right side of your page. The other problem you face is the left side of your page, where the background image is way too big for an 800 x 600 resolution (the most widely used), and too small for anything higher than 1024 x 768. Here's what I would do. Make the image just the correct size to work on 600 x 800, maybe a tad bit smaller just to be safe, you never know what kind of toolbars people will have on their browser. Then, use the same method I mentioned above to have the left frame always be of that width. Finally, dont use it as a background image, use it as an inline image, at the top of the page. For a background image, use something that can tile below* this image, and look good below it, as though the image wasn't even cut off. It may be a bit of a challenge to create something like that, but it's probably the best thing you can do. That will take some work. You'll also have to set the page's margin sizes to zero, use <body leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" rightmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"> in your body tag to do that. Then your content will take up whatever space remains, and keep your page flowing well. Make sense?
shocktreatement Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate From: Insane since: Apr 2001	posted 04-21-2001 05:57 WOW, Thanks a lot! I really appreciate all of the help you have given me. Unfortunately,this post didn't reach me on time and I couldn't do your suggestion first. I did something slightly different though. I changed the lengths around and I made the image larger and I checked all resolutions until I was satisified. Tell me what you think and be honest: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement/main.html If you don't like it,I will do your plan next if that is still possible. Thanks a lot for all of your help! --?Shockie?-- "Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite
Allewyn Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Solitary confinement Insane since: Feb 2001	posted 04-21-2001 18:36 Jeez.. Now that I'm thoroughly depressed, after reading your 1st page content, and knowng how much you hate tables, and that you're reluctant to change, I have these comments. You either need to resize the right/center frame so it takes a bigger bite out of the left side or resize the follow on pages so they don't cause the HSBOD. Also, spell check your work.
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 04-21-2001 20:11 It looks alright. But I'd still give what I said a shot, especially the part about using exact pixel values for the frames. For instance, your buttons at the bottom, they're all 68 x 68 pixels, I think that that bottom frame should be exactly 68 pixels no matter what your resolution! So just give that a shot, email me [ noone53@hotmail.com ] if my previous post about how to do it wasn't quite clear, I'd like to help. Heh, and don't hate tables just yet, you gotta be patient, work with it, I'm just starting to really be effective with them now, and I still have stuff to work on in that area. (technically, these aren't tables you're working with on this particular page, they're actually frames, maybe you knew that, maybe not, whatever. =)
shocktreatement Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate From: Insane since: Apr 2001	posted 04-23-2001 15:04 Today, I went on Netscape 4.7 to view my site and it looks absolutely shithouse! There are lines going through parts of the page,lines that aren't suppose to be there. On top of that,the navigation is off. I fixed the coding like Mr.Max said,but it didn't help at all. Only one box appears and it links to only one section. Does anyone have any ideas? What should I do? I am thinking of making another page without frames,do you think that might help? What the heck should I do? By the way,my website again is: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement --ShockTreatement-- "Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite

Topic: What the? Netscape problem\$

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shocktreatement
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted 04-20-2001 14:58

HEy,
I have been working on my site for a little while now and I have been having problems with Netscape. The website is: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement/main.html

I use absolute location for the down.html section of the site. When I view it with Netscape,I can only see on image that leads to one section that I have started on. However,when I am on MSN,I hve three images,that lead to three different sections which is perfect. I viewed my website with Netscape 4.7.

Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix this problem? This is really getting me upset. Should I use tables instead?

--ShockTreatement--

"Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted 04-20-2001 21:04

Have you seen how your web site looks lin higher resolutions (i.e. 1152x864)? Everything is displaced and doesn't look very nice.

Anyway, as far as NN is concerned, you have some invalid HTML code there and that may be causing problems... One example is this:

<img src="spacer.gif" height=1
width="95"(you can make this any width you want so that
it fits any background)>

You CAN'T write any meaningless text (I've bolded it) inside HTML tags!

shocktreatement
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted 04-20-2001 23:16

My site isn't even finished yet. GIve me a chance here!
I fixed that little sentence because it is causing the problems. I am going to put a little sign on the main page that says "Best resolution 800 x 600" and I am going to create another main page for those who use higher resolutions so hopefully the website will be able to fit everyone.
I have just started. I need time to think of what I want for the site and how I want it to fit in the online community.

--Shock--

"Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 04-21-2001 01:27

Let me make a different suggestion: make your page automatically work in all browser sizes. People will like that better. Here's how you can do it:

I see you're using things like

<FRAMESET ROWS="3%, 23%, 3%">

You can change that to specify an actual *pixel* width or height of the columns or rows. Do it like this:

<FRAMSET ROWS="100,*,80">

That will make a 100 pixel high row at the top, an 80 pixel high row at the bottom, and the middle row will simply take whatever's left over. That will fix everything on the right side of your page.

The other problem you face is the left side of your page, where the background image is way too big for an 800 x 600 resolution (the most widely used), and too small for anything higher than 1024 x 768. Here's what I would do.

Make the image just the correct size to work on 600 x 800, maybe a tad bit smaller just to be safe, you never know what kind of toolbars people will have on their browser. Then, use the same method I mentioned above to have the left frame always be of that width. Finally, dont use it as a background image, use it as an inline image, at the top of the page. For a background image, use something that can tile *below* this image, and look good below it, as though the image wasn't even cut off. It may be a bit of a challenge to create something like that, but it's probably the best thing you can do. That will take some work. You'll also have to set the page's margin sizes to zero, use <body leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" rightmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"> in your body tag to do that.

Then your content will take up whatever space remains, and keep your page flowing well. Make sense?

shocktreatement
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted 04-21-2001 05:57

WOW,
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate all of the help you have given me. Unfortunately,this post didn't reach me on time and I couldn't do your suggestion first. I did something slightly different though. I changed the lengths around and I made the image larger and I checked all resolutions until I was satisified.

Tell me what you think and be honest: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement/main.html
If you don't like it,I will do your plan next if that is still possible.

Thanks a lot for all of your help!

--?Shockie?--

"Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite

Allewyn
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Solitary confinement
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted 04-21-2001 18:36

Jeez..

Now that I'm thoroughly depressed, after reading your 1st page content, and knowng how much you hate tables, and that you're reluctant to change, I have these comments.

You either need to resize the right/center frame so it takes a bigger bite out of the left side or resize the follow on pages so they don't cause the HSBOD. Also, spell check your work.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 04-21-2001 20:11

It looks alright. But I'd still give what I said a shot, especially the part about using exact pixel values for the frames. For instance, your buttons at the bottom, they're all 68 x 68 pixels, I think that that bottom frame should be exactly 68 pixels no matter what your resolution! So just give that a shot, email me [ noone53@hotmail.com ] if my previous post about how to do it wasn't quite clear, I'd like to help.

Heh, and don't hate tables just yet, you gotta be patient, work with it, I'm just starting to really be effective with them now, and I still have stuff to work on in that area. (technically, these aren't tables you're working with on this particular page, they're actually frames, maybe you knew that, maybe not, whatever. =)

shocktreatement
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted 04-23-2001 15:04

Today,
I went on Netscape 4.7 to view my site and it looks absolutely shithouse! There are lines going through parts of the page,lines that aren't suppose to be there. On top of that,the navigation is off. I fixed the coding like Mr.Max said,but it didn't help at all. Only one box appears and it links to only one section.

Does anyone have any ideas? What should I do? I am thinking of making another page without frames,do you think that might help? What the heck should I do?

By the way,my website again is: http://www.geocities.com/shocktreatement

--ShockTreatement--

"Didn't open the box,and what was it last time? Didn't know what the box was. And yet we do keep finding each other don't we. Perhaps your teasing us,are you teasing us? No games,no more teasing,time to play!"-Female Cenobite

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