Topic: MAC users help....

... I just need you test this file, and tell me if any of the artwork //001 up to //005 are centered in the coloured box and not all over the place on IE5 up wards?. If you click on one //00 (something) link and it does not let you cilck another link tell me (if this happens it's the content layer cover it whole page).

I just need MAC poeple here, as it's just a mac problem just in IE, which is pissing me off big style. As some of you know I redesigned my site and it going t*ts up on mac in IE only because of some layers, if mac users use mozilla they can see it in a full working goodness. It's just IE, it messes up the content layers position absolute's and the content in it, plus because it's moves it, it covers the navigation meaning you can't do anything once clicked (you have to refers the whole page). I'm tiring it to figure it out why the hell the Mac IE does this and not any other browser on mac? (I know this because I was using a mac all day today testing this out but I didn?t have the file it play around with, so I couldn't do a no the spot checking)

This has been puzzling me now for two days since bill posters over at create forums said it a mess on a mac (in a long way of saying it though). I can't find what's wrong with it and why it's acting like this just in IE. The navigation works fine with IE on Mac and with other browsers too, It them darn layers with my content in.

The only thing that is different with the content layers is an "align=centre valign=middle" for the table but surely that can't be it? (can it?) As my navigation tables are just set to default and the content ones are not. I added a table in the content layer because with out it the Mac IE just does not render the "align="absmiddle"" code for some reason. It really getting to me this is, because this is the only thing that stops it working on mac. This is why I want to do some little tests, as I don't have access to mac for a least a week now, so some help would be nice.

MAC users you can have a full tub of cookies and pill if you test it

Thanks

PS I tried what WS siad with the DOCTYPE setting but it all the same, so this does not work , but was worth a go to see if it helps.

[Edit - If it's not this then I don't know why IE on mac does this, then I'll have to pull it down and re-think or re-work it, darn it!!!]

-- DS --

[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-26-2002).]

So from my limited experience I have noticed this happening when an absolutely positioned <div> is placed inside a table. The CSS spec says absolutely positioned elements should be positioned relative to the nearest absolutely positioned ancestor. The solution would seem to be to pull the <div>s out of the table they are in.

See my test page at: http://www.coffman.umn.edu/ie5.html

Here's a screenshot of what it looks like in mozilla and IE 5.2 on my Mac.



-jiblet

Thanks jiblet,

I think I'll have to make two versions of this one for the MAC and for the PC. As you can see below IE handles the absolutely positioned elements differently on a PC and MAC, which is a nice find. Mozilla renders all the layers as they should but IE does not on a MAC.



I see what your getting at, that there in tables which off set the layer from the tables position? Right. Well that?s right but still does not help what is happening to my site, all the layers are not in a tables there out side of all the tables (see image below- it's in dreamweaver see that the layers are not in tables but at the bottom of the whole table set), so...hmmm...



jiblet: Can you test this file. (don't worry about the postions of the navigation I get that sorted, as that was the only thing that works fine. This is with all the layer the top of the page and placed at the bottom, where I placed them.

I have to dig deep on this one. Darn it why? Browsers problems should be with NS/mozilla shouldn?t? Not IE, what's bill G up to??? I wonder.

Thanks JIB for the help on this one

-- DS --

[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-27-2002).]

OKey I think I've sorted it now you Mac users should be able to have the full working version now

HERE - If there is any problems just say, I'd be very grateful if you can check every link if you can (that means all the //00 type links in artwork and design) .

Don't forget to clear your Internet cache!!!!

Also do you get a scroll bar in the pop up?

Thanks again for all you help .

-- DS --

[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-27-2002).]

Yup, all the links work fine in IE 5 Mac.

I could have sworn I saw those divs in a <TD> when I first looked at it. What did you do to fix it?

-jiblet

Jib: then layers where never in a table:-

(To a mail to steve form GN who helped test it )

I was on a mac today and was able to put on a demo of the dreamweaver MX and
figure out what was wrong with it. I found a few things while testing to on
a MAC. One that the mac IE5 does not render some align code, which is odd.
And the thing was I had the layer, then with in that layer I had a table set
to 100% with and height, then a table with that table with my content. It
was the first table which was cursing the problems and some align code too.

I had the first table in the layer set to 100% which pushed out the layer
more than it was might to be. And the image was set to align absolute
middle,. which the mac IE5 does not render when I tested it. With all that
depending on what size you browser window was the image and layer would
follow cursing it to be well out of line. So I got rid of the first table so
i had on table and set it in pixels not %, by and setting my image to
centre, which it works, with out making the layers bigger and covering the
navigation.

All that mess and it was a table set in % then pixels, darn it :-D.

If you don't understand then either do I , Thanks all for all the help in this topic and other in testing , ideas, etc.

Now go and see it in all working order