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I think reducing the width of your #frame div will remove the space. I think that's the reason because of my "show divs" bookmarklet, advertised earlier in another thread: javascript:a=document.getElementsByTagName('div');for(b=0;b<a.length;b++){a[b].style.border='1px solid #F00';}void(0); It's very handy when dealing with CSS problems involving DIV's, as most do. I suggest you make a bookmark with that as the URL so you can use it when necessary. With that, you can easily see that the containing div has extra space on *both* sides of the "Hi there" div, which implies that it's just larger than the objects it contains.
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