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Ok, I used z-index relative and absolute, two very different things..So, because I am just relearning this and never learned absolute, I wll make two identical pages, one absolute and one relative to see what the differences are..absolute seems to give more control but I see the same boxes over and over..either there isn't any creativity in box making, CSS has not progressed in browser compatibility or ..there is one golden rule Box that just works so well no one needs anything else..I will play with it and post both pages in a week or two..time permitting
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