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poi: [quote]One thing that puzzles me is that I perceive your reasoning of design shift more as a graphical aspect than as a code wise and portability aspect.[/quote] Well I addressed that aspect because: 1. You brought it up. 2. The advanatges for accessibility, page size, flexibility, SEO, etc. are more widely known but it seems to be the visual aspects that are often the conceptual stumbling (e.g. "OK I know it is good for accessibility but how do I do this without tables?"). 3. I felt like kicking around a few thoughts on the topic - I can't claim to have all (any?) the answers and doing away with tables doesn't mean you have to do away with columns or anything just that you don't need to design a CSS site to look like a table site. You said: [quote]To me, the real strentgh of CSS is in the separation of the design and the content and the portability it brings.[/quote] To me the important thing is the separation of the structure and the presentation - the (X)HTML tells you what it is and the CSS tells it where it should be and what it should look like. I see your issues with ESPN and I'd put it down to: 1. Design problems that could easily occur in any design. 2. Attempting to get the table-free design to resemble one with tables - you end up falling between the two stools and the results can be less than desirable ;) ___________________ Emps FAQs: [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/53/]Emperor[/url]
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