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[quote]Nonetheless WIRED and especially MACROMEDIA are pretty good candidates.[/quote] Ugh, but looking at Macromedia's CSS files, there are MASSIVE amount of compatibility hacks to make the site viewable in CSS-glitched or older browsers. If I can do something with tables in a few lines that would take half a page in CSS to ensure it renders properly, which is the "cleaner" solution? Unfortunately, the old one :( Working with commercial sites, you generally can't afford to turn away ANY customers (especially for a small-medium business) just because their browser is older, and even for non-commercial site, you shouldn't be turning away "just that few percent" when you have an alternative design option that would make your site accessable to them. Otherwise, forget visually-impared, and all special-access browsers, they're a minority too. Sorry to rant, just tearing my hair out with frustration at how standard CSS isn't. Blame the browser authors, I suppose. :( Much as I would like to use pure CSS, I'm going to have to mix it with lots of tables on my next site, because it's just so much less hassle for me at the end of the day.
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