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I was wondering about an include, and have used them in the past, but always on sites I control, so I do not have to worry about anyone else doing the changes. It is a golf course site, so I wanted to have the pro shop be able to put the course condition/opening time (i.e. frost, whatever). I have never tried php and wondered if it was appropriate for this. I will have to look at the host and see what is available, the host they chose leaves a bit to be desired for webmaster usability. thanks and let me know if you think of something else. bill
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