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[quote]I have no idea where you're getting that idea from. Who exactly deems something as acceptable? And in what context? I thought we were talking about web standards here.[/quote] I would consider W3C as a good source for choosing standards. Tables are still allowed under XHTML Transitional, I believe. How they're used is really the business of the owner of the website, and nobody else. While XHTML was recommended back in 2000, it hasn't really gained a real foothold even now. Serious designers use that format to follow the recommendations (and it appears, only for that reason, which smacks of elitism), but it hasn't hit the amatuer market yet (for instance, up until Dreamweaver MX, DIV layouts weren't supported by Dreamweaver). For the most part, tables are still here to stay. People can scream about standards all they want, but if nobody uses them, they're not really standard, are they? [quote]No, it's not silly at all. Web standards aren't just about not using <tables>s for layouts, if you think that's what it is then I fear you're missing the point. CSS is about separating display from content. An extra <div> thrown into a page to fix a display problem is defiantly in opposition to this ideal.[/quote] Yes, just like tables were. Just like the Internet is now today. The Internet wasn't originally intended for what it is today - does that mean it's bad? Good grief, no need to be anal. DIVs are the structure of the page. He needed a fix, I gave him one. I didn't recall the display: block option - I already said that was a better idea. But you're jumping on me because I (gasp) offered to use another DIV?! [quote]This is what web standards are all about. CSS is just a technology, like <table>s, how you use this technology is the measure by which I would consider a website to be standards compliant.[/quote] An extra DIV will not destroy a page, nor will it make the load time balloon, nor will it look any different in any browser. You're blowing things way out of proportion. "Oh no! He used an extra DIV! I'm never going back to that site ever again! He's not following web standards!111" [img]http://xmedheadx.homestead.com/files/clouds.gif[/img]
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