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KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-22-2001 00:58 Edit Quote

Ok I'm very new to premiere and like to do a show. I want to make the show black and white except for the coca-cola can which I want red... how can I do that is Premiere?

Is there a faster way to see the results of effects added than saving (building) the show over and over?

I want to add the coca-cola logo in there but the program stretches it accross the screen while it's only a little logo... how can I resize and place it on bottom right...


I know that's three question but there is so much going on in my head...

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-22-2001 01:16 Edit Quote

well... easy. use your filters!
first of all, add a second video line to your movie above the original one. import your image and add it to the new line. then use the change size filter and finally the transparency filter. you might also use the motion-filter for applying the correct position of your logo.

im using the german version of premiere, so maybe some words are different then i said.
maybe filters are called effects and so on...

quote:
Is there a faster way to see the results of effects added than saving (building) the show over and over?
yes. use a mac!


hope i could help. if you have any more questions just go ahead and ask.

[This message has been edited by me (edited 11-19-2001).]

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-22-2001 03:51 Edit Quote

OKAY! you solved two questions... thank you...

Does anyone have an answer to the first question?

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-22-2001 12:20 Edit Quote

the black and white?
filters -> adjust image -> Black&White

(again, i hope it's called like this, cause im using the german version)

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KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-22-2001 23:18 Edit Quote

but I don't just want black & white.... I want black and white with one of the objects in the show red... pls help... thank you

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-23-2001 01:28 Edit Quote

so you dont have that object in an extra video/image?
sorry, i thought it was the cocacola can in the new video line.

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kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-23-2001 05:31 Edit Quote

If I understand you correctly Karn, you want to superimpose a red Coke can onto a Black and White animated background?
I put this quick 20 min flick together (from some recycled stuff) in Premiere .
Have a look here 250k
and if it is close as to what you are trying to accomplish , post here and I will explain how it was done.

cheers
kromaZ

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 07:02 Edit Quote

kromaz that is exactly what I want done... pls help out here...

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 07:05 Edit Quote

but the movie that i made actually has a coke can in it and I just want it to have it's redness while everything else is black and white...

kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 16:09 Edit Quote

Sounds like a job for Rotoscoping technique which can be really time consuming.
It involves hand painting the coke can frame by frame or changing the hue/saturation of it frame by frame.
There are programs like Final Cut Pro,Combustion, Boris Red etc that are made specifically to accomplish these effects.
If you dont have these progs you can do it in Photoshop.
If there are hundreds of frames it will take time.

To do this in ps you need to export the b&w clip in Filmstrip Format.

Condensed steps.

Open clip in Premiere> double click movie to open in Premiere.
2. Choose export from File Menu
3.type name of movie.filmstrip and save.
4.choose quit.
Make sure you have the Filmstrip plugin in Photoshop
Choose open in PS to open filmstrip in PS.
The filmstrip will open as a series of frames in a column. and zoom in.
use the magic wand to select coke can in each frame.
Paint away or use Hue/Sat.
Save the filmstrip and open in Premiere.

Refer to your manual section covering Rotoscoping for the full steps involved

Hope it helps
cheers
kromaZ



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kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 17:13 Edit Quote

Here's a quick & rough example I did using the Rotoscope technique that I described above,using the magic wand to select an area in each frame of the Filmstrip (in PS) (shift+click Mac).

When all the areas were selected in the frames apply the Hue/Saturation to change the colour. Curves,Levels, or any other adjustment can
be used also to modify the appearance of the Coke can.

One thing you can not do is add or subtract an alpha channel or alter the size of the Filmstrip
in any way, because you will not be able to save it as a Filmstrip file to be opened in Premiere.

cheers
kromaZ


[This message has been edited by kromaZ (edited 11-24-2001).]

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 19:30 Edit Quote

thanx for the major help kromaz... because of the slowness of premier i couldn't get to that stage yet but that is what I'll do for the final color... thanx again

kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-24-2001 20:10 Edit Quote

No problem.....glad to help.
Hope it works out, if you get stuck just holler.
Here's one more just for the heck of it.

cheers
kroma

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KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-26-2001 03:49 Edit Quote

kromaz... you said in export... but export which part... I can't make it into .filmstrip or .flm anywhere... pls explain...

kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-26-2001 04:23 Edit Quote

When you have your movie file imported to the "A" Roll in Premiere, double click it
and a new window will appear called Clip:"name of your movie" [1].
This clip you will export as the Filmstrip.

Go to File in the menu>Export>Filmstrip File.
Save your Filmstrip as .film

I'm on a Mac so the file extension may be different for PC
but it should show the extension automatically.
Once saved, open in Photoshop, make sure you have the Filmstrip Plugin in PhotoShop.
Remember that when you save a filmstrip you are actually saving every frame
of the movie as a Pict, so these files can get huge, depending on the number of frames
involved.

~edit~ I should have asked what version of Premiere you are using?
I'm using v4.2 only because I find it less bloated and not as buggy as 5.1 or 6.

cheers
kroma




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GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-26-2001 14:17 Edit Quote

well, im on a pc and it is very similar.
just go to file-> export -> film
then under settings select Filmstrip.
the file extension is .flm

edit: btw: if you are working with filmstrips in PS you should have a lot of RAM!
my 256 are full after i imported a 5 second filmstrip!

[This message has been edited by GRUMBLE (edited 11-26-2001).]

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-26-2001 21:56 Edit Quote

thanx... I got it this time

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 11-27-2001 06:22 Edit Quote

you might try the "color replace" filter or the "color pass" as well. I've seen them used to good effect to desaturate everything but the specified color. If the can is the only red thing in the shot it will do nicely, otherwise the other red items are going to show up as well.

Post an example when you get done, I like this effect. It was one of the first major video tricks in a music video. Remember that Rick Springfield video "Jessie's Girl" bleh
=)

Jason

KARN
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Bay, Ontario, CA
Insane since: Apr 2001

IP logged posted posted 11-27-2001 18:06 Edit Quote

seems great but one of the actors was wearing a red sweater... thanx anyways...



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