Topic awaiting preservation: It's that time for another debate! (Page 1 of 2) |
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Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-12-2002 21:51
Since Beekay suggested anyone who wanted to start another debate thread I will go ahead and do so. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain |
posted 09-12-2002 21:59
how about cloning(sp)? very controversial subject |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Vancouver, WA |
posted 09-13-2002 00:35
On the lighter side: PC vs. Mac |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-13-2002 00:54
how about the other topic which was runner up to this one DRUGS SHOULD THEY BE LEGALISED YES OR NO |
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there... From: Stockholm, Sweden |
posted 09-13-2002 01:13
Hey tomeaglescz, if you feel very strongly on this subject perhaps it would be a good exercise to assign you the PRO side of this debate, and make sure any opponent felt exactly opposite from you, and give them the CON. I can remember they did this to us at school, we always had to argue for subjects we strongly disagreed with, everyone learned more by researching positions they were uncomfortable with. Just a thought, this way we could be more certain that the debates would be argued based on logic instead of any emotional bias. Could be fun? |
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA |
posted 09-13-2002 01:14
I've heard of that before... personally, I hate trying to convince people of something that I disagree with =) |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 01:30
Yes slime but its all opinionative you see, I think that is a good idea. But of course I have never.... wait yes I have nevermind. I thought it was a good idea to see what the other side had to put up with, and what it was like to hear it differently. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: outside Augusta National |
posted 09-13-2002 01:36
It helps you appreciate and anticipate the other sides arguement. We used to do exercises like that when I worked in PR. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-13-2002 01:51
Hey Doc Nice Idea, but from my own personal point of view i couldnt do it, i can see ya logic from it and if it wasnt this subject then i would happily go for it, but although my beliefs in this are strong (to put it mildly) they are based on facts figures logic and real life experience i would love to give it a shot from the con side because i know the opponents would have a real hard time taking me on , added to that i dont think i could argue something genuinely enough if my own beliefs were so opposite to the view i was trying to argue for. I tried it before on a pro life topic and although i won i felt i had somehow cheapened my own beliefs by wining a debate for a standpoint opposite to my own...probably doesnt make sense i know but what the heck |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: New California |
posted 09-13-2002 01:56
I want to throw peanuts around for the next one. Any of the topics mentioned thus far sound good to me. I think my favorites would be nuclear weapons, legalizing drugs, and abortion. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 02:10
Well I have only been on the opposite side once in the 7'th grade. It was weather or not to cut down trees from the rain forest. I was absent the day we chose sides so naturally anyone who could would get the con side because of the chopping down of rain forests and the rest of us were put to pro thinking that they should be chopped. So! It was an interesting debate indeed. I enjoyed going pro for cutting down the rainforests and I think I made some good points IMO, but I would have much rather been a con and I would have done better at that I think. |
Bipolar (III) Inmate From: North Carolina mountains |
posted 09-13-2002 03:40
Quick word of advice: You can spend days milling around trying to get everyone to pick a subject. That happened already. Instead, pick a subject and request folks pick their sides. Not enough folks show up after about a week, then table that subject and throw out another subject and ask folks to pick sides in that one. Keep doing that process until a debate finally picks up enough participants. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: the bigger bedroom |
posted 09-13-2002 03:52
can i suggest what i did earlier - random team assignment. (reinforcing doc's comment in this thread too) |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 04:04
Arg, I guess that means I am in charge of this show! be scared... |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: outside Augusta National |
posted 09-13-2002 04:16
Insider, a suggestion, I would narrow the topic down the legalization of marijuana. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 04:21
Ermz. Well I am new at this. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: the bigger bedroom |
posted 09-13-2002 04:52
Insider: depate topics should be statements, not questions. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Seoul, Korea |
posted 09-13-2002 04:59
I've got to agree with tiki here, InSiDeR. If you go with something like "that drugs should be legalized," you're really putting the pro side at a disadvantage. It's also way too broad a subject, considering the range of drugs out there (not to mention the fact that many drugs are already legal). |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 05:09
Alright I see where this is going. Should Marajuana be Legal?" could be the simple question. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: New California |
posted 09-13-2002 06:06
I think you should keep the topic broad as well. There are a good number of Libertarians who would have no problem arguing to make PCP legal. You just never know, we could have a few hardcore Libertarians around these parts. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Gig Harbor, WA |
posted 09-13-2002 12:55 |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-13-2002 17:27
How about "The legalisation of drugs would lead to fewer Crimes and Deaths" |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: West Texas |
posted 09-13-2002 17:45
Man, I wish I had a bit more time to spend on things like this. I would love to get in on the "Marijuana should be legalized" side of that one. Or even drugs in general would work for me. However, due to time constraints, my posts will be few and possibly far between in the peanut gallery... |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Happy Hunting Grounds... |
posted 09-13-2002 18:11
Wooot! Another Formal Debate! I have to agree with Bugs...it sure takes a lot out of one to actually participate. It was a lot of fun, granted, but a lot of work and research as well. I not only learned a lot, but my bookmarked pages grew at a frightening rate...*whew!* |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 21:26
Hmm, ok I have thought on this long and hard. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain |
posted 09-13-2002 21:55
starting a new thread? or it begins in here |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 22:52
Well first we need a 2v2. I don't know if tomeaglescz is gonna continue with the change but if he does we need a con and 2 pros to make this happen. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain |
posted 09-13-2002 23:15
shit |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-13-2002 23:41
Ok so 1 Pro for legality of marajuana. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Seoul, Korea |
posted 09-14-2002 02:03
Um, just for the record, it's marijuana. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-15-2002 01:04
although i think that keeping it to just marijuana is narrowing the whole debate down from the original idea if this is the only option then i will keep my spot, i just thought that with a different angle on the drugs issue such as i proposed rather than rehashing (pun intended) an old argument that has been done time and time again it would make for a more refreshing debate. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: New California |
posted 09-15-2002 02:56
Well it's InSiDeR's call, but don't think it should be limited to Mary J. Juana. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: outside Augusta National |
posted 09-15-2002 03:25
tom my suggestion, was just to keep the debates sides balanced. If those debating against you feel that they can defend their position with the leagalization of all drugs then have insider return to the original topic. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Seoul, Korea |
posted 09-15-2002 05:22
My two cents: marijuana may be a bit narrow, but all drugs is definitely very broad. There are a multitude of different types of drugs, and (as I pointed out above) many of them are already legal. I can just picture the opposite sides arguing about completely different drugs and completely missing each other. I mean, you're going to have to draw the line somewhere, unless you want to make it a philosophical debate (in which case you won't be able to rely on statistics for particular drugs, etc., since you'll be dealing with the concept of "drugs"). That could work too, of course, but it has to be clear from the start that that's how it's going to go. Otherwise you're going to have people running around comparing ibuprofen to crack cocaine. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-15-2002 09:30
hey guys thanks for the input. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 09-15-2002 21:54
Ok you know what? Why don't we just have a debate over weather or not the debate should be drugs or marijuana (ty suho). |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK |
posted 09-16-2002 00:06
Drugs in general please as it seems to be the general consensus of opinion, but with a bias to the illegal drugs not those legal drugs which can be used or obtained legally |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
posted 09-16-2002 00:23
I think limiting it to Marijuana is probably the better choice. Otherwise the debate would move from legalization of drugs, to "free choice vs health of society", and I don't think that would be a very interesting debate. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 09-16-2002 01:22
InSiDeR: You might be right about having a debate to decide the breadth of the drugs debate I could put forward a reasonable arguement for why heroin should be decriminalised but legal is another thing (and I couldn't use the same arguement for crack or PCP). |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: New California |
posted 09-16-2002 04:08
Good advice, let's get this thing rolling! I've already got my ticket and I'm looking for my seat... all I need is a couple of bags of peanuts. |
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