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...Read this everybody:

Heaven and Hell

It's a pretty broad topic for discussion, and I think it will bring about some more understanding as to theories about HEaven and Hell to the Asylumites who aren't interested in Theology.

Very interesting...thanks for posting, cfb. I especially found this to be of interest

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The death of the physical body is really only the 'first death'. It's followed by a 'second death' in the astral realms, when the human soul, or reincarnating ego, separates from the astral shell and enters a blissful, dreamlike state of rest, known in theosophy as the devachan, meaning a 'happy state'; it corresponds to the sukhâvati of the Buddhists, the svarga of the Hindus, the Amenti of the ancient Egyptians, and the Elysian Fields of the ancient Greeks. When the energies finding expression in the devachan are exhausted, the thirst for material life begins to reassert itself, and the soul is drawn back to the earth for a new incarnation, clothing itself in many of the same astral and physical atoms that it used in its last life.

According to this perspective, there's no outside power, no extra-cosmic deity, directing us to heaven or hell. Rather, we're drawn automatically and unerringly to those realms and conditions with which we resonate most strongly. The length and nature of our feverish and fitful sleep in the kâma-loka and our sweet and peaceful sleep in the devachan depend entirely on the sort of life we've led on earth, and the extent to which we've either indulged our lower, selfish impulses or cultivated our higher, more spiritual aspirations. We therefore create our own heaven and our own hell -- both during life and after death.

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It directly relates to what I 'remember' from my near-death experience...

Also, the part on Inner worlds and their inhabitants was pretty interesting, as well...would like to see more on that. As one of my roomates was an ATC in Grande Forks, ND, he had many interesting things to say about 'radar glitches'...hehe...but most of what he had to say is classified...

All in all, I found the article to be most...interesting. Much food for thought, there.

Pretty cool.

All this reminds me of this theory I have, probably shared by others, that we are simply bacteria living on an electron within Fluorine. We are living in Fluorine because Flourine has 9 electrons floating around the nucleus, like our solar system. The 9 planets are electrons, the sun is hte nucleus.

"Fluorine is the most electronegative and reactive of all elements. It is a pale yellow, corrosive gas, which reacts with practically all organic and inorganic substances."

This sounds like humans. We are a bacteria that takes the properties of the solar systems, which is why we are so reactive and so negative. That is also why we are so corrosive to the environment. Anyway, yea...Eternal Hell is not likely.

And webshaman..I think this state you are talking about is sort of a trap. I'm not sure about this, but who could be, unless they were dead. Perhaps when you die, you enter this state of blissful nothingness and wait for another body of your liking...or something. The trick is to break free of this state and rise up through the hold and then you can exist as a powerful spiritual master, never having to reincarnate again.

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Bookmarked, I especially enjoyed reading this part.

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Another unjust feature of the traditional Christian scheme of things is that whether we're sent to heaven or hell doesn't depend on all the deeds we've done during our life but solely on whether we believe in Jesus at the moment we die. This means that an atheist who has lived an exemplary altruistic life would automatically be consigned to the flames of hell, while a person who had committed unspeakable crimes but later repented and turned to Jesus, would go to heaven. This doctrine is partly based on chapter 16, verse 16 of St Mark's Gospel, where Jesus is made to say: 'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.' We can safely assume that no genuine spiritual teacher could ever have uttered such words.

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I think that Jesus judges our hearts, not "What we beleive at the time we die,"

But, you could commit felonies, murders, rapes, but at the time you die if you truly beleive in God, then you'll go to heaven. That means truly, actually, with all your heart beleive that Jesus rose from the grave and lives again.

On the other hand, you could be like the sajases (spelling is totally off, ), and be a fake Christian (like you "play" Christian), and when you die you won't go to heaven, because you really didn't beleive in Christ.

You could also be a felon, who is a big drug attict, and is a Christian battling addiction, you could commit a murder, while being a Christian, and if your truly sorry and truly beleive, youll be forgiven.

In other words, where you go when you die depends on where your heart is, not what you pretend/do beleive.

[This message has been edited by counterfeitbacon (edited 12-28-2002).]