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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-05-2003 05:09

Supporting the people who have to execute the decision to go to war is an absolutely seperate issue from supporting the adminstration who made that decision.

I'm so sick of the 'love it or leave it' mentality.

I love my country and all that it stands for.

I *hate* to see the things that it stand for denegraded by such moronic naziistic thought, and I hate for it's principles to be dragged through the mud by the people 'in charge' of it.

Perhaps *you* should go live in those countries so that you can get a more objective view of our governments actions...

=)

{{edit - and being an idiot who flip-flops here stance based on public opinion is a far cry from being a ruthless dictator. I'm actually somewhat surprised to see you post this bugimus...}}




[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 04-05-2003).]

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-05-2003 05:24

I posted that in the same spirit as all the other political satire pics. The ones showing Dubya as the monkey come to mind. You know I'm not equating her with being a despot but perhaps it was in poor taste all the same.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-05-2003 05:42

(nah...more likely I'm just irritated from the 1st portion of my post I should know better...)

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-07-2003 11:16

I totally agree with DL and the first part of his post - NeutralZone, pull your head out. I, too, am sick and tired of hearing such crap, from idiots.

Supporting the troops, is different from criticizing an administration, or president (or both, as the case may be). NeutralZone, you need to get your facts staight on this, before you shoot your mouth off.

I am a veteran. I have served my country, both in peace-time, and in war. And I'm sick and tired of hearing such drivel out of the mouths of those who consider themselves patriotic just because they give their loyal support to and blindly following an administration or president...put your money where your mouth is, and stop the bull****! Patriotic is as DL so eloquently put it...in your country. To question is a required part of being Patriotic...not blindly following irregardless.

Sorry, but such general fire-starters are just that - flame topics.

NeutralZone
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 04-07-2003 18:36

DL and Web,
Sick as much as you want. I love to live here even though some people like yourselves abusing the freedom of speech. I've learned enough of how the government in those countries. And definitely, I don't want our government to be like theirs (or maybe they should so you guys can stop bitching about our President). Here are something you guys should think about:

* Maybe you can live in palestine so your family can get $25K for being suiside-bomber killing many innocent lives.
* Go on the streets and see bunch of statues/pictures of dictator such as Iraq - that will cheer you up.
* The true "shutup-or-die" metaphor can be found in Iraq - don't even think about go on the post forums or walking on the streets with any sign that critisize Sadam's ways. We don't hae "shutup-or-die" here so don't abuse the freedom of speech.
* Regular people like us in those countries are being taught wrong.
* Have you heard about communism? Don't even bother to look up the dictionary for that term because what it said in dictionary is not even 1/4 of what it really is.
* Do you know why Sadam himself (and his family) is so rich? It's his empire guys - wake up. He took all the moneys - none what so ever that was spend for general public for education (real education - not Sadam's education).

All of the above lists are just part of what communism is.


Update:

* It's fine to critisize but just watch your mouth - don't be like that Dixie chick.
* There are a lot of things our goverment did not tell us (another word, I don't even think any of us understand the whole thing of why our government decided to go to war with Iraq) but I've questioned myself that the fate of our country is not in my hand so why should I be known about everything? I can't and not qualify to make any decission BUT our President and his cabinet could. So I figure, I just shutup and supporting the President's decision and pray for our soldiers to get home safely.


[This message has been edited by NeutralZone (edited 04-07-2003).]

MW
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 48°00ŽN 7°51ŽE
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 04-07-2003 19:02

My day is made. Thank you so much, I was really in need of a good laugh right now.

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-07-2003 19:27

Do you realize what a fucking oxymoron "abusing freedom of speech" is? How the hell do you abuse something that's free?

You're ignorance of the process and what makes this country great is absolutely amazing. While there are many who do not agree with the president and the current war, You're the only fascist saying to shut up and agree.

If you want to just shut up and follow the rest of the cattle please do so.

Here's another note. I bet when C*****n was in office you were just as silent and supportive of our administration right? Never critisized our leader's decisions then did you?



.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

NeutralZone
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 04-07-2003 19:47

bitdamage, those that said other ignorant are the ones that live as such. Look at yourself before look at others.

This will be my last post to people like you. Ain't worth my time talking to you. :-)

RammStein, my hat off to you for such a wonderful letter. I'll miss seeing such well-thought posts as yours since this will be my last visit to this forum.


Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-07-2003 20:01

NeutralZone: Its a shame you are leaving somehow comments like:

quote:
All of the above lists are just part of what communism is.



leave me suspecting that we have really only just glimpsed the tip of your iceberg of idiocy and I'd love for you to stay a bit longer. However, I'm also sure there are forums out there where such posts would be greeted with uncritical approval so.....

Bugs: Loved the CD cover - lets be honest he is going to need a new job quite soon. Pos. start with some kind of covers album:

'Come on baby fight my liar'

Actually I'll delete some of those as they were pretty tasteless

___________________
Emps

FAQs: Emperor

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-07-2003 21:29

hehe.

wow.

What better way to celebrate the freedom of a deocracy than by trying to institue Nazi polices! Great idea NZ!

I'd repsond more, but I can't seem to find a coherant point in your masturbatorial jumble there....

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-07-2003 21:58

Good ridance.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 07:46

I nearly fell out of my chair when I read this today. Dixie Chicks Pose Nude in Answer to Critics

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-25-2003 08:42

Just goes to show, that any publicity is good publicity these days...

*sigh*

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 15:42

I read that yesterday morning. What I found funny was not what they were doing (I mean, c'mon...nude covers are so passe ), but that it was actually a 'top story' on the CNN website....



platyjim
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Fromsville
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 04-25-2003 17:33

I hate it when people act like disagreeing with the war is disrespecting our troops. I would like our troops back home and safe as fast as possible. I also disagree with the war. They;re not the same thing.

platyjim
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Fromsville
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 04-25-2003 17:35
quote:
we have really only just glimpsed the tip of your iceberg of idiocy



Damn,i have to say that to someone someday That's great,

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-25-2003 21:03

platyjim, undermining the war once it has begun endangers the troops. By all means, speak out boldly before it starts and after it has finished but be very careful how you criticize *during* because it can, and has killed our people in the past. I hope you can see the difference.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-26-2003 07:25

...I have to post another to see the one I already posted hours ago...

Rameses Niblik the Third
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: From:From:
Insane since: Aug 2001

posted posted 04-29-2003 03:13

The war is silly, the Dixie Chicks can't sing, public opinion is controlled by those in power. Why should we care any more?

RammStein
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 05-02-2003 03:30

how did this topic get dug back up out of the rubble .. I thought this was a dead topic?


.::. cEll .::. 513

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-02-2003 03:35

I'm seriously considering the Dixie Chick technique of arguement - Bugs had better watch out next time around the block or its nudey Emperor time with rejoinders scrawled over my body!!

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Emps

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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-02-2003 04:19



WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-02-2003 09:23

Hehe...'Emps, Unplugged'!

Lol!!!

And as I said, any publicity is good publicity, these days...Dixie Chicks draw sellout, protesters in 1st U.S. concert since flap. And here is the evidence

quote:
But ticket sales have been brisk for the group's 59-concert tour and this week, their latest album moved up to No. 2 from No. 3 on the country music charts.

Austin-American Statesman



So much for 'album sales plummetted'...because if they did, then they most certainly would have been at the No. 1 spot...I'm sure that they are not hurtin' at the bank...


[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 05-02-2003).]

MW
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: 48°00ŽN 7°51ŽE
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 05-02-2003 11:54
quote:
undermining the war once it has begun endangers the troops. By all means, speak out boldly before it starts and after it has finished but be very careful how you criticize *during* because it can, and has killed our people in the past. I hope you can see the difference.

I know this was for Platyjim, but could you please elaborate on this difference, and exactly how speaking out against the war while it is going on endangers the troops?

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