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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 03:00

This doesn't seem to have been mentioned but it is one of the most worrying developments yet (and MS has come up with a few):
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020627.html
www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/25892.html
www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25852.html
www.theregus.com/content/4/25378.html
www.theregus.com/content/4/25463.html
www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,264904,00.asp

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Arthemis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milky Way
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 05:36

i think the ue will not allow anymore abuse...

except they got their hands full with the euro anti-propaganda and... well... as usual "not allow anymore" means "letting most of whats already here remain"


"i'll take pity on the foo's"
Mr-T

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 06:10

Just never bloody ends does it?! Thanks Emps. ~I think~

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 07-05-2002 12:01

so the end of days has come.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 12:12

GRUMBLE: I am checking the Book of Revelations for mention of Palladium - nothing yet.

That really is pretty much the last straw and I'm now going to serious look into cutting down my use of MS goodies (I installed OpenOffice on my laptop and it seems pretty nifty) if they really go through with this they will face a huge backlash. The scope, scale and potential of this is truly scary.

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GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 07-05-2002 12:14

yeah, anyone seen or read 1984?

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 12:56

Maybe Bill Gates really is the devil...scary stuff...

With such power...it boggles the mind...and is a threat to all internet surfers...

Personally, I don't think it will succeed...I hope it doesn't...thanks for the info, Emps.

Down with MS!!!

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 07-05-2002 14:10

You know that if palladium were the protocol, that 'downwith MS' comment prolly would have triggered a flag.

God this fucks me off. That's all Microshaft ever tries to do, control, control, control.

Koan 63, written on the wall of cell number 250:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 07-05-2002 18:22

You know Palladium is scary, but even more immediately I worry about the network infrastructure which is increasingly coming under control by a few megalithic corporations. If they decide they want to install "smart" network switches they could effectively control the Internet in any way they want. Thankfully the Internet was initially designed to prevent this sort of abuse, but don't think it can't be done.

The good news, of course, is that geeks are pretty socially aware on this level, and so with the help of hardware and software engineers everywhere it is possible to remain vigilant and keep a close eye on these greedy corporations before they have a chance to recast the digital revolution to their sick, profit-motivated standards.


Oh yeah, Palladium was the topic. I think it is only a threat if Microsoft can force all chip-makers to follow their standard. As long as their is an open-source out from Microsoft, then they will always have to give consumers what they want (rather than dictate what they 'want'). The future of the computer industry is at a very interesting crossroads right now where the future can be a freer, brighter society empowered by communication, or a dark Metropolis-like world where corporations control every aspect of human experience. Good time to be alive I'd say, let's make a difference!

-jiblet

maninacan
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Seattle, WA, USA
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 07-05-2002 22:23

I'm really hoping that Palladium doesn't make it, because if it does the whole internet is gonna just turn into one big thing owned by microsoft, which is quite possibly one of the worst things that could happen.

Maninacan Cell #471
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