Preserved Topic: Overclocking 101

Well...it took me three weeks of steady programming but I finally got windows 95 to run with a linux designed processor.

Why I hear you ask?

Becuase I can...

and I needed it for Uni.

Now...the question you must ask yourself though is how did I manage ot get Windows 95, Office 2000 and Windows Media Player Latest version to run on a 486 DX2? Simple...I over clocked it using a program called CT3. Don't ask me what it stands for, but it works. My 33 MHz processor now runs at 112 Mhz. While one hell of an achievement, my processor has no heatsink or fan, so I can now cook my breakfast on it.

Got any other computer horror stories like that? Then again, I could always try and over clock it even further...

So... any sideeffects? You're not gonna need much central heating around, I guess.

The side affects are as follows:

CTRL+A and CTRL+F do not work.

If you go into control panel though My Computer, ir doesn't load.

My bacon has a slight plastic taste to it.

-= 'I AM THE OVERCLOCKER!! ALL SHALL TREMBLE BEFORE ME!! =-

since when is a 486 DX linux designated?

and why dont you just buy a small fan for it?

That's pretty impressive.

I thought that you had to change the BIOS settings(multiplier and FSB) to 'hardware overclock' it, compared to the way things are overclocked using software in windows.



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Arr.. so.

I used to run Windows 95 on my 466 DX2 66 Mhz processor and It wasn't overclocked at all...

"three weeks of steady programming"

Programming what? And Why?

Last time I checked you didn't need to 'program' anything to overclock a processor. Just flip some dip switches or play round with some jumpers... Of course you'll need certain apps to push it past the limits of the mainboard but that's what CT3 does right?

"my processor has no heatsink or fan"

I'll give it a month before you burn it out, and that's being optimistic. Unless you got yourself a near perfect tap of a DX2 33, without any cooling your seriously pusing it. Your also risking frying your mainboard too.

I've heard stories of people building 486 processors into a freezer and getting overclocks of up to around 600%. Or was that with 386's?.... Still, cooling is the way to go if you want to hit the big numbers with old tech.

Personally, If I still had a DX2 I'd prefer to run DOS only so I could play all those kickin DOS games I miss so much.

Say, do they have a DOS emulator for the NT OS's?

Although I don't see much point in overclocking nowadays. The Hardware's usualy way ahead of the software. Although I'm always amused by the people who pay $3000+ for a brand new system and overclock it so they can get an extra 10 to 20 FPS in their games when their already getting 80+ FPS. When you can't tell any difference above 32 FPS, all their doing is shortening the lifespan of their PC, and making it more unstable.

buuulshit ;-)

or drunk... hey, pass over that bottle of tequilla!

[This message has been edited by Tyberius Prime (edited 08-10-2002).]

He did have ot actually re-write quite a few things. Not all 486's are linux designated, but it does really appear to be that that was all this processor was designed to take. So in order to install windows a number of files had to be re-written in order to fool the windows installation into thinking it was in fact an IBM PC.

Since when?

Never heard of em?

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 08-11-2002).]

I never heard of them either until I recieved this 486 from a friend of mine.

It took a long time to get windows thinking it eas an IBM, 3 weeks of re-writing instalation files to be exact. It always came up with this message:

This is not a IBM PC, Windows is not compatible with your computer.

As for overclocking it, The program CT3 is a BIOS Flash and reconfigures the BIOS to run at its best performance.
It gives you order, and 'YES' you do have to change jumper settings on your Motherboard as well.
As far as I know this programe only works on 386's and 486's.
I managed to get the bugs worked out of my re-writen files, it was just bad file names and bad paths.


-= 'DOS: Damn Operating System =-

Um, what it sounds like you had there was an IBM OEM version of Windows 95. It probably even says, "For use only on an IBM PC" on it. OEM versions are frequently modified to install only on that manufacturer's hardware so that you can't, say cop a CD from work and install it at home. Compaq, HP and others have all done the same thing.

A 486 is a 486 is a 486. Windows wouldn't install on that poor old thing, not because it "was designed for Linux", but because when it looked in the BIOS for "IBM", it wasn't there.

Heroic effort nonetheless.

[edit: Why did "error" come out of my fingers when I meant to say "effort"?]

"the most incredible feats are often accomplished by
those who have had the most incredible challenges"

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I should have got the BIOS Flash before I tried instaling Win95,
then it May have worked. I'll remember that for next time.

I finnaly got a Heatsink and Fan for my Processor, Mabey it will stop overheating now, And mabey I can overclock it even more. That's my next Challenge.

-= 'DOS: Damn Operating System =-

It would work only if it was an genuine IBM brand computer, as opposed to some other brand or a clone of some sort. And if it were, 95 would have installed anyway in the first place. It would be easier just to find a generic copy of Windows.

"the most incredible feats are often accomplished by
those who have had the most incredible challenges"

I tried looking for a generic copy of Windows 95, but after two days on the internet I gave up and took the easier option of creating my own instalation files.

-= 'DOS: Damn Operating System =-

Well hey Jo whaddaya know! Good to hear you finally sorted it out. Although it is kinda amusing that everyone is like yeah? So? What's ya point? But good for you I say.

Why WIN95 I must ask?

Luxo: it's a 486, do you honestly expect it ot be running windows 98 or Windows ME with any degree of speed?

Dude there's no such thing as a linux designed processor. Linux was developed to allow Unix to run on a x86 proccessor not the other way around.





.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

Well all that I knew is that it wouldn't load windows, because windows was not compatible for my computer.
Yes, I'm running windows 95 because of the speed factor.
Although with all the Overclocking, I'm seriousely thinking of upgrading win95 to win98.
I just have to make a copy of my Hard drive first, It's not that big, it will fit on one cd. Hows that for hard drive space? (Laughing).

-= 'DOS: Damn Operating System =-

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Linux was developed to allow Unix to run on a x86 proccessor not the other way around.

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Really? Seriously, I don't know Linux' history. I had always assumed it was for a CHEAP UNIX on x86. Back in the day, I sold an awful lot of SCO UNIX for the original PCs (8088) and XTs (8086). Note the absence of the fifth digit in the middle.

I lost track, or interest, in UNIX for about 15 years in there. Did all the early x86 ports die some horrible death? (Like price themselves out of the market?)

"the most incredible feats are often accomplished by
those who have had the most incredible challenges"