Preserved Topic: Help again...

Ok, I must be a stupid idiot! Every time I make a new design I have trouble with netscape (this time it's not bad, and netscape isn't really ticking me off).<P>Well, here's a link;
http://www.designinghelp.com/new/ <P>I think you'll know whats wrong with it in netscape.<P>Anyone know what to do?<P>thanks,<P>Blitzkrieg

i don't have time to look at the code in depth right now, but try and switch the z-index attribute in you "coolstuff1" div tag to 4. right now your news1 and coolstuff1 div tags both have a z-index of "3", that could possibly b the culprit......let me know if that helps.<P>------------------
"Efficiency is an intelligent way of being lazy"

OK, I notice one proble with Netscape, the content divs ride up under the buttons, that kinda sucked. Try putting the style information in the style sheet like you did for the menus, instead of embedding it inside the div tag, you'll have better luck. I liked the menus, that was pretty cool! Here's an add-on I'll recommend, start tracking your mouse movements, and make a function to close all menus if the pointer gets below 200 or so. That way if your mouse drifted too low, we could assume maybe you wanted to read stuff and your view would not be blocked. And it'd look cool. :-)<P>------------------
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OK, I tried with what you guys said. Still doesn't work.
http://www.designinghelp.com/new/index2.html <P>Also, can someone quickly explain what z-index does (and how to use it)? I'm pretty sure it just says what goes on top of the other, but I'm not sure. So could someone explain it quickly?<P>Also, know anything else that might be causing the design to not work in netscape?<P>Thanks,<P>Blitzkrieg<P>Oh, Doc... as aalways, when's your next kickass design coming?<P>Also, you reallt should make it so you don't have to type the "www." in your URL

Well, I think I fixed it.
http://www.designinghelp.com/new/index.html <P>also, Doc, think you could show me how to make the menus go up when your mouse goes so far down?<P>-Blitzkrieg

yes, z-index is the stacking order -- the higher the number the closer to the top of the pile.<P>What care I how time advances? I am drinking Ale today. -- Edgar Allen Poe

Hey, where did the menus go? No menus with Netscape 4.72 on my Macintosh, running OS9.x<P>You need a good mousefollowing script, like this...<P><SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--begin script<P>netscape = (document.layers) ? 1:0;
goodIE = (document.all) ? 1:0;<P>if (netscape) {
window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEMOVE);
window.onMouseMove = watchmouse; }
else if (goodIE) {
document.onmousemove=watchmouse; }<P>function watchmouse(e) {
if (netscape &#0124; &#0124; goodIE) {
Xpos = (netscape)?e.pageX:event.x
Ypos = (netscape)?e.pageY:event.y
if (Ypos >= 200) { closemenus(); }
}}<P>//-- end script -->
</script><P><P><IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.gif" border=0>

Damn, I see the menus with Netscape...<P>DHTML/HTML needs dome help. Most of the time it's luck when you get something to work. There is almost no set thing. I got it to work by first making the "coolstuff" into one image (made it not scroll weird, but it was still under the menu) So, somehow, I got lucky, and put the "coolstuff" section's HTML before the "news" section's HTML. Amazingly that made it work.<P>Though, you said you can't see it on your mac. That just goes past my knowledge, and into the people that are better then me at this stuff.<P>Atleast I always know I have time too learn... me being only 14, allows somewhat of an advantage pver the rest.<P>-Blitzkrieg

Damn, Doc your right, you can't see the menus in Netscape.<P>The good thing is, I got the other thing to work (that when you put your mouse so far down they scroll up). There's a small problem... if you bring your mouse down, the up quickly the menu screws up (though I don't think that's a big deal)<P>Also, found yet another problem. If someone is using aol (which I do get many aol visitors to my site) and click the menu (it works) but, when they click a link they get an error... though if they press ok it works... but I don't want an error to come up, know how to stop that?<P>thanks,<P>Blitzkrieg

Actually, that mousfollowing 'shutoff' script is flawed a bit, in concept. I wanted to simplify it for a first atempt, which works, that's cool, but here's the flaw. When you move your mouse below 200, after the menus are closed, it still runs that script, over and over again. Too much of that and you can overwhelm somebodys system. Now you need to set a variable in the functions so that once the menus *are* closed, it will check in the mousefollowing script and not run the 'closeall()' script. Details, but necessary if you seek after perfection. I have one site where I have a single script running on a setDuration() that makes all of the menus try to be where they should, runs every 100ms or so. Then, all my mouseovers need to do is set the value of the top of the div, things work their way towards it. Works cool, but I can't share this particular site just yet, password protected as all get out. I'll work on another version so I can show it off, maybe tonight.<P><IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.gif" border=0>

Well, that's problem. I'll play around with the scriipt, but I doubt I'll be able to fix it.<P>-Blitzkrieg