Preserved Topic: Water Drawing Records

A friend of mine asked me to make this page for him. It's not completely operational yet, but what do you think?
http://www.tbns.net/wdr <P>----------
See? Teen guys are interested in more than just girls and food. JavaScript is cool too.<p>[This message has been edited by Slime (edited 16-04-2000).]

It looks nice. I like that water effect, and the little intro sentence. It's better than "Loading...."
However I did get a Javascript error in NS 4.7
Line 50: document["b" + a] has no properties.
Dunno if this means anything to you or not.<P>(I can't seem to spell right today.)<P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.<p>[This message has been edited by F1_error (edited 16-04-2000).]

Oop, maybe I should have considered testing it in Netscape! My bad. Try it in IE for now, if you have it...<P>----------
See? Teen guys are interested in more than just girls and food. JavaScript is cool too.

Yeah it looked great in MSIE 5.x You've got some real talent. <P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

ACCK! I can't look at it -- won't connect to that server. has the URL changed, or is the server having problems? or is it just my end. I'll try again later I guess <P>What care I how time advances? I am drinking Ale today. -- Edgar Allen Poe

Well, I'm not having any troubles connecting.

Netscape bug is fixed (unless there's another one...) and the page is much more complete! I'm just waiting for some of the content... but tell me what you think of the new scrolling thing. (The buttons work now, in other words)<P>----------
See? Teen guys are interested in more than just girls and food. JavaScript is cool too.

Your gonna hate me. In NS 4.7 I get:<P>JavaScript Error: http://tbns.net/wdr/main.htm, line 86:
document.container has no properties<P>Then I reload the page. error disapears. So I'm thinking ahead a little. I leave the site. Close and reopen my browser, clear the cache. And take it one step further, I shut down my system for a bit. I reboot, and go back to WDR with NS4.7. Same error, I reload the page, error gone. <P>MSIE 5.0, no problems.<P><P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

The same thing happened to me! I HATE netscape! It always does this! Although, I somehow managed to fix it, or so I thought, before I uploaded it. Darn. And I think this is one of those Netscape bugs that isn't my fault, and there may or may not be a way around. If anyone can figure this one out, feel free.<P>Arg.

Let me see if I have this right. You would like all the images preloaded before they show up right? <P>An idea that may or may not work.
You could set the images up so that they are 'invisible' height="0" width="0" and begin the preload on the WDR big logo page. And place your text 'Good things come to those who wait' there. And set a document refresh / redirect tag to 0 or something. Of course you could always try Flash. Flash works well in both browsers, and helps to stiffle the cross browser issue.
<P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

No, the images aren't the problem. It's a div tag (absolutely positioned) containing other div tags. document.Container is the main div tag, and it has a bunch of <div id="text0" class="content"> tags inside... you'd really have to look at the source, I think. Thing is, I remember a similar bug once before with the same general thing, and I'm comparing that old page with this one, and I can't find any differences.

Hmm, that is starnge. I had to go to IE5 on the mac to view the page, Netscape has no luck at all, document.container has no blahblahblah... I've used this same concept before, one div holding other divs, seems to work usually! Seems to freak out right after shutting down the loading div, at this line... "viewbox = document.container;", why is that? Seems to me you could maybe just right that into a string, and then call all of your refernces inside an eval tag, that's usually how I work anyway, so I wouldn't need to re-write much, but your stuff might need more work, hard to tell without digging too deep. Good luck on this, I like the interface, water shapes are always fun. For the graphical bits, I like the water, but the plain ble background is maybe too plain for my taste. How about a dark blue, like the background of the forum, for example? Might have more impact.<P>
Your pal, -doc-<P>----- Doctor Thaddeus Ozone --------- "Specialization is for insects"---

I thought that line was the problem too, but then I realized it wasn't working either - viewbox comes out to be undefined, and the next time it's accessed (if the program gets that far), it causes an error too. Sigh...<P>I'll see how a dark blue back works out. That may look better.<P>----------
See? Teen guys are interested in more than just girls and food. JavaScript is cool too.

I think I fixed it. Someone want to double check for me before I get my hopes up?<P>(Oh, and since tbns.net has prooved to be unreliable (they can't be accessed sometimes), I changed the address to http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/waterdrawingrecords .)

Still have to reload the page before I get anything in NS4.7
For a really simple fix, why not have your script auto reload the page if the user has NS? The graphics should be in the NS cache, and it would just appear as if NS decided to reload after loading anyway, (somthing that NS does all on it's own sometimes).
I gotta step out for a second, but I'll be around online most of tonight if you wanna try testing again.<P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

Man... I had fixed it so that it only messed up *after* a reload on my computer. I'll test again later.

Nice work slime. I didn't poke around all over, but I like what I saw on the main pages. btw, I use IE 4, and no problems.<P>What care I how time advances? I am drinking Ale today. -- Edgar Allen Poe

Well then... I tried the auto-reload in netscape. Does it work now? Please? Please? =)

Worked perfect this time in NS 4.7, and I would not have even noticed the reload were I not looking for it. I also checked it against MSIE 5.0 and and it was great there also. Keep up that good work.<P>-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

Something about the name 'Water Drawing Records' bothers me....<P>Maybe it's cause I'm a lunatic? *Laughs maniacally*

WOOHOO it finally works! And I just now fixed an IE 4 bug that made a button not work. Nice. As for the name, I'm just doing what the "client" asked. =)