Preserved Topic: relative positioning of netscape layers

hi peoples,
i have made this objects that move, if you want to see them, check: http://reitsma.tripod.com/stupidpage.html
now - i want to document.write these objects into a page.
to do this, i have to write with layers, with this sort of setup:

if(ie) {
document.writeln("<div id='blockDiv3' style='position:relative; width:30'>");
document.writeln("<a href='#' onmouseover='block3.slideout()' onmouseout='block3.slidein()'>");
document.writeln("<img src='sclub.gif' width=89 height=12 border=0></a>");
document.writeln("</div>");
}
if(n) {
document.writeln("<layer name='blockDiv3' visibility='show' width=30>");
document.writeln("<a href='#' onmouseover='block3.slideout()' onmouseout='block3.slidein()'>");
document.writeln("<img src='sclub.gif' width=89 height=12 border=0></a>");
document.writeln("</layer>");
}

...the only problem is that i dont know how to position layers dynamically, like i can with divs.
if anyone could provide assistance in this matter, you would make someone very happy.
and that someone would be me.
perhaps one can put an element on the page first, like a 1x1 transp. gif, and locate that, then use this for an absolute reference, but i dont know how to do that myself. just trying to give ideas.
thanks.

Im not really reading the question but do you mean something like this :

<div id="Layer1" style="position:absolute; width:???px; height:???px; z-index:1; left: ???px; top: ???px"></div>

If not then, well sorry for not helping ...

Buncha - I don't think I've ever told you that I like your expanding cirlce thingies. Those are pretty cool, pratical even.

ok, sorry, i dont think i stated my dilemma clearly enough.
i know how to give it x and y values, but the problem is, i cant exactly do that.
i need the little bullets to be placed relatively, like they do with divs.
they need to go where the 'cursor' is when the page is being rendered.
get me?
like, on a table on the page, wherever the table is, i want it to be like this:
[bullet] [link description] <br>
[bullet]......
and so on.

Just a shot in the dark Bunch. Using css, I think you have to first make a <div> with a relative reference to the table in question, then make the other <div>'s absolute to that one. I have a page that uses it to move layers with a table if the page resizes. The code is like this, hope it helps.

In your css:

#layer { position: relative; align: center; visibility: visible; height: 205px; width: 307px; clip: rect( )}
#nest { position: absolute; visibility: hidden; height: 205px; width: 307px; left: 0px; top: 8px; clip: rect( ); z-index: 0}
#nest1 { position: absolute; visibility: hidden; height: 205px; width: 307px; left: 0px; top: 8px; clip: rect( ); z-index: 1}

Then you nest them in your <div> tags like this:

<div id="layer">
<div id="nest"> your stuff </div>
<div id="nest1"> your stuff </div>
</div>

Hope I'm not way off cuz I'd love to help, but I probably am. And I still say you named that page for me!

btw, I had to use slightly different numbers in Nertscape than I did in IE.


[This message has been edited by butcher (edited 01-01-2001).]

hmmm....
that may work, if i can nest layers inside divs.... making things very cross browser uncomfortable... and that could get very icky with images in ns...
thanks for trying, but i dont think that its the right option.

Your right, it isn't cross browser friendly, I had to build the page a different way with Netscape, but you can nest the layers inside <div>'s for IE for sure. Here's the page I did it on if you want to check the code. When you click on Number 1 or Number 2 the images that come up are held in nested <div>'s. Sorry it wasn't what you were looking for, and thanks for pretending in your reply that it might be. I makes me feel good to at least think I was almost right..... *sigh* someday.

sorry butcher - chances are it could work, im just lazy.
and my psychic skills are a little rusty, so if you want to post a link to where you nested layers inside divs, then ill be happy to look at it.

Damnit!!! I'm so brain dead, I do that every time...... s**t I'm stupid. I told you that you named that page after me! Here it is
http://www.martysdesigns.com/md2/quick.html

Sorry