Preserved Topic: Question (About Scrollbars...)

I was wondering how to make scrollbars in a page aside from the on that is always on your right handside.
I want to make a scrollbar in the middle of the page like on http://www.breedart.org/ <<that page. May you please give me some instuctions or tell me where I can get a tutorial on how to make the scrollbars in a page? THanks
-YoYoFREAK

One example would be:

<div style="width:300px;height:300px;overflow:auto;">content here</div>

Besides that you can use IFRAMEs (not supported by NN4), or DHTML scrollers...

Mr max, were you implying that overflow:auto *does* work in NN4? That would be cool, I've never even bothered to try it... does it?

What are DHTML scrollers and may I please have the HTML for them?
Thanks Mr. Max for anwering my first question.
-YoYoFREAK

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That page breaks completely in NN4

Also DHTML scrollers are tricky business not simple code at all..




Walking the Earth like Kane

DHTML scrollers are at that level where you can't cut and paste a script for them. Although some scripts are made like that for DHTML scrollers, they really just aren't that good. It drives me crazy how some people use only cut and paste scripts and then get frustrated when things don't work right. One must learn to write their own code! Cut and paste scripts don't help you learn. They're like Photoshop filter-thingies. And they say nothing about the skill level of the person who uses them - actually, they say a lot.

YoYoFreak, please understand that that was not aimed at you. =)

Um, anyway, a DHTML scroller will be too hard for us to help you with if you don't have the necessary background in HTML, JS, and CSS. Stick with the overflow:auto; and work towards learning new things.

Slime,
What is the necessary background in HTML? My goal is always to get better as I want to someday be as good as you guys and gals out there in the Graphics and Webdesign relm; that is why I ask so many questions. I also spend on average about 5 hours a day on the computer. My main focus right now however is Graphics and Photoshop because I can't make the code to implement into my site unless I have a good structural design with my graphics.
THanks
_YoYoFREAK_

Well, you should have HTML down. You must also know CSS (cascading style sheets) well enough to create classes and IDs. You need to have a fundamental understanding of how JavaScript works, and be able to create your own objects. Finally, you need to be able to use the three together - CSS telling the HTML what to do and JS telling the CSS what to do - to create a dynamic page. That means you have to learn lots of the predefined object structures (like document.all in IE and document.layers in NN and what they do and how to use them).

It can take some time. Work on simple JavaScript stuff first, like rollovers, and for heaven's sake, if you have the money, buy a good book. (JavaScript: The Definitive Guide from www.oreilly.com is good.)

Slime, to answer your question - No, overflow property is part of CSS2 specification and therefore not supported by Shitscape4 (it works in Mozilla, though).