Preserved Topic: ICC profiles in 5.5

I've used PS5.0 for a long time and recently I upgraded to 5.5 (sorry, I couldn't get 6.0 yet. k?) BUT with 5.5 came this nifty [set up your screen correctly] wizard-kinda-thing, in which you could set up your screen correctly for using graphics. after I used this wizard I ended up with a so-called ICC profile, and saved that. Now, if I view graphics in IE or in other programs, they appear correctly. In PS, they're suddenly a lot darker. Now I end up with this:

'on screen' being what I see in IE and normal, PS how it shows that pic.

Does _anyone_please_ know how to cure this? I just want my original settings back .... ;_;

I had a similar problem. Photoshop makes a lot of on-screen color corrections for people who do print work. I just totally disabled color management (Edit > Color Settings), and it works fine now.

MUCH better. Thanks a lot!

Actually mbridge, it's sort of the reverse. Photoshop 5 screwed millions of people working in print by enforcing color manangement without a whole lot of hand holding, and defaulting to sRGB which is VERY yuckky for print. Millions of frustrated users fouled up their images because they did not understand the new colorsync stuff. And even though I've read everything I can, and even though I subscribe to a list serve on the topic, I confess I still find it daunting.

Are you Mac or PC? Under the file menu, choose color settings>RGB. Make sure sRGB is selected from the pop-up if you want it to look like most of the world will see it on a monitor (sRGB is the Microsoft PC default gamma setting, 2.2 I think, as opposed to something like AdobeRGB or ColorMatch which is more Mac/print related, 1.8 gamma). You might want to un-check "use monitor compensation", since the screen adjustment wizard is pretty primative (compared to a hardware calibrator - one of those stick-on things); there is a very good chance that the wizard produced an inaccurate profile and that's messing things up. I'd also go through and disable profile embedding in files and be sure to either turn off or set to "ask when opening" any of the options to convert files when there is a profile mismatch. This is the nasty little bugger that trashed many many files created in earlier versions when their creators opened them in Photoshop 5.x. This feature assumed you had the color settings the way you wanted them, and that you wanted Photoshop to automatically convert old files or files created in other color spaces to your working space. In most cases, this was not a valid assumption

Colorsync is capable of being a very good, very powerful technology, with the best of intentions. Problem is it's so complicated to use, so poorly documented and so tied into accurate profiles that casual or uninformed use is actually worse than not using it at all. Due to the outrage of many, Photoshop 6 addressed most of these issues. It still enforces a Colorsync workflow, but in a somewhat kinder and gentler way!

I work on a Mac, and use a harware monitor calibrator. When I work on files for print, I usually have the RGB space set to ColorMatch, and a custom CMYK setting; when I work for web I set the RGB working space to sRGB. The on-screen display is very noticably different. I generally do not embedd profiles, and I almost never say yes to converting colors. Widespread adoption of Colorsync is inevitable and Adobe is on the leading edge, but like any relatively new technology it's not friendly to the masses yet. Because everyone's monitor, printer, digital camera and scanner have their own ideocyncratic personality and take on how to display a given RGB value, some sort of software monitoring is going to have to be implimented to tie things together. Unfortunately, though the technology works, using the is not seamless and invisible the way it some day will be.

Hope that's some help. Post back if you're still lost.

Hey mahjqa;

I forgot to needle you. You post your master of photoshop certificate and then immediately post a "help me with Photoshop" plea. What kinda standards does BrainBench have anyway?

the first thing i fell in love with in PS6 is the ability to embed and/or change profiles without hassle...



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Damn! You found out!

well, at first, I did the PS5.5 test without ever having used it. I worked with 5.0 back then. ^^ they didn't ask me anything about ICC's... So hell, how could I know?

oh yeah, the standards of BrainB are ok, seeing that our doc failed for his test (at least he was told that he COULD go around with PS, but that he needed a little supervision)(didn't you, doc?)